Has anyone considered Trinity to be the hope? She risked her life by going into the Matrix so Neo could walk through the door to the Architect , and remember Neo says "I need you" - Strength. She is also the reason Neo abandons the door to his right, to save her - Weakness.
I also believe Persephone is the mother - I think she only gave Neo the Keymaker so that the cycle would continue unto the next stage.
Persephone the MOTHER? (and sum random oracle thing)
HI! I would just like to say this is my first post i have read closely to what you guys have written, and I found my self (to say the least) compelled by your theorys.
PERSEPHONE:
When the architect refers to the mother of the matrix he could be reffering to persephone, she is a well known actor and played a minute part in RELOADED which could imply she will play a far more important part in revolutions.
For you people who didn't already know this PERSEPHONE in greek mythology is the goddess of nature (sort of) so could her name have something to do with this in the matrix?
ORACLE:
Always says bingo, probably nothing but made me think, what do you think?
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Redhot, welcome aboard.
First off, Persephone was the daughter of i believe Demeter. She was kidnapped by Hades and taken to the underworld where she ate 6 pomegrante seeds. Because of that, she must spend 6 months with Hades in the underworld and 6 with her mother. (This is how the Greeks explained Summer and Winter. Demeter was the goddess of grain. Somebody correct me if it's not Demeter, btw). Persephone became the Goddess of the Underworld. This makes a lot of sense because she could control the renegade programs her husband kept. These werewolves and vampires. What better place than the underworld for them to stay?
Second, I downloaded the trailer at the end of reloaded for revolutions and spliced out this pic. While it doens't show that Persephone is the mother of the matrix, it definetely starts point out that she has a much bigger, more important part than we are supposed to know of. (The mother?)
Yes!!! I knew it was something along those lines, but the last time i did greek mythology at school was a long time ago.
Persephone will SURELY play a larger part in the next movie, she is a well renowned actor, she wouldn't settle for the tiny part she played in RELOADED... would she?
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It's probably already established, but I also believe that Persephone is the "Mother" of the Matrix since the Architect said that the mother was designed to master human emotions, which would explain the kiss with Neo. I also think that the kiss has more significance considering the attention and camera angles they used to show it, but who really knows?
Originally posted by Mithrandir
I took a computer course, and it taught me that a computer can only read the decimals of a number to a certain extent and ten it stops. So the complex percentage of anomallies can only be read to a certain number and not to its full value. The computer than will round to the nearest readable decimal. The difference between the actual value of anomallies and the rounded is the percent chance that Neo is "the One" I hope this made sense.
Ok, this may be nit-picking 😉
The rounding problem may be the problem you detect, but the fundamental problem is insufficient computing resources.
The problem with rounding up/down is (often) due to the binary representation of floating decimal numbers in computers. But given that the architect has all relevant formulaes, it's possible to circumvent that. It's often possible to adapt the equations to work with integers only. Or, if the limits on integers are insufficient for the calculations, you could define all mathematical (or other) operations on strings of characters.
(Suppose this is wrong, then how can there exist algorithms that calculate, say, the value of pi, or the natural constant e, with arbitrary number of decimals - GIVEN enough computing time?)
So, there is something that is running out.. Either time or computer memory - so the calculations can not be fulfiled (without rounding errors or other errors).
i've been searching a lot (sorry for my english) and i heard so many opinions but here goes mine..... in the first movie there something like there a difference between knowing the path and walking the path. So is everyone think a little...its like a words game in M1 and M2. Neo doesnt belive in fate so this means that everything the oracle or the arquitect said,ok he done what she said(Oracle) but i think he dont really belive in the words they keep saying to him. I think it was kind of stupid he did all the oracle told him to do. It seems like is to easy for him just doing what they kept saying. That was the reason he stop doing the things the arquitect told him. Im agree in rencarnations and he became more powerful that the pasts Ones. I agree that trinity really loves him and viceversa. Some people keep saying that they dont really in love but i think they ARE. Coz Trinity risked her live to save him and something like that its done for love and only for LOVE. I think (i seen the movies 3 times and tomorrow is my fourth) that Neo didnt ate that candy, he only takes it but not ate it. But that means something he didnt accept what the oracle said like in the M1 where he ate that cookie. Someone said in other forum that IN M1 when that agent were interrogating Neo when the camera were zooming there was monitors like the ones apears in M2. So that person in the other forum said that the arquitect was watching Neo before Morpheous got him awake. That means that the Arq. knew what Mr. Anderson will going to be. About the end of M2 i think Noe has a little bit of information from Smith and V/C i think neo is more powerfull in M3. I read in a interview with W Bros that their favorite ones were "there is no spoon" and he also like a LOT Alice in wonderland... Maybe we should see this movie (ALICE.......) and c whats going on with it.
Whoa! hang on a sec there FLIPMODE. U said that the oracle said that if they are not from the matrix program then they can be seen correct? Well that is actaully incorrect becuase what she ACTUALLY said was the programs u cant see are the ones that are doing what they are meant to be doing. The ones who aren't are the ones you can see. therefore as u said, the oracle is therefore not doing what she is supposed to be doing and hence could somehow not be a part of the initial matrix program, yet she is an affiliate with it as she is not human.
Flipmode, you need to go see the movie again. the programs that are running as they SHOULD are the ones who are INVISIBLE. The ones who AREN'T are the ones VISIBLE. But that doesn't change the fact that the oracle could be a part of the system, but she also could not be a part of it. but when she's on the park bench with Neo, he says that to her, that she's apart of the system. Thats why he asks her if he can trust her or not.
We know that the “mother” of the Matrix was a physic program created to investigate the human psyche. That seems like a pretty adequate description of what the Oracle does. Even though the Architect scoffs at the name Neo uses.
We know that everything in the Matrix are programs. Cakes, candy everything. I was more intrigued by the candy the Oracle gives Neo being red like a pill than the cookie in the first movie (which probably just told Morpheus that neo WAS indeed the One).
Some have suggested Persephone, but I have seen good evidence in support of that. She might’ve been a program written to investigate human emotions, that somehow got lost or whatever.
The Oracle does lead Neo to the Source. It does not mean she is bad. For the One to break the cycle, he must learn the truth and survive the meeting with the Architect. The Oracle may originally have been part of the system, a program that led “The One” to the Keymaker who would then lead the One to the Source. She’s not a “visible” program as such. Foretunetellers are not mythical creatures.
So she was probably doing her job up until SOME point between Matrix 1 and 2. In the first movie she is NOT on the run. She even has children, she says as much. The Oracle has written other programs – maybe Persephone is one of them???
But I stray.
What happened between M1 and M2 to make the Oracle get a bodyguard like Seraph (who might be residue of a previous One) and hide out? She didn’t TELL Neo he was the one. She made HIM chose to be the One when he went to rescue Morpheus. “We are lost without him.” We? We the humans and machines that corporate?
The Oracle probably foresaw Cyphers betrayal for it is the one thing that makes it possible for the agents to capture Morpheus. And the one event that makes Neo choose to be the One.
A human that is much older than 1) the usual batch of people the rebels unplug. 2) every other potential One. His a grown man and in M2 he'’ very much in love. Something Persephone by the way tests and can now for sure subscribe to.
Persephone was the daughter of Zeus and Demeter. She was kidnapped by Hades, whom she eventually came to love. Merovingian is the name of a line of French kings between the 5th and 8th century and also the name of an order of the holy grail.
Whose to say that Mero isn't the Mother of the Matrix?
Why Mero...because who said the Mother has to be a woman? Think about it...in Matrix 1...Neo made the assumption that Trinity was man when he(Neo) read all those reports about the Trinity doing those hacks and what not...Whose to say that Mero couldn't be the mother as well.
We've already seen one instance where he has the ability to write code on demand(ie. orgasmic cake)...Neo doesn't seem to be able to write the code for the Matrix...but rather be able to see the code and only manipulate it.
I'm not saying I'm correct in this assumption, its only a new theory I'd like to throw out on the table.