Dooku vs. Exar Kun

It's not really "far greater" for one or the other, Kun was always very much a strength-based fighter. But, whatever pleases you.

I'm not saying Ulic is weaksauce or anything I just think that one fight signifies the difference. According to the source material Kun was on another level once he developed his saberstaff style and incorporated his precog.

I think you're exaggerating how much of a difference his saberstaff made. He was regarded as "unstoppable" for his time, but that's in part due to the fact it was the only saberstaff being used at the time, and the way Kun used it was highly unpredictable. Nobody knew how to combat him. You seem to be suggesting his raw skill as a fighter soared because he added an extra blade to his lightsaber...

At any rate, Kun won't be outfencing Dooku. He probably will be out Forcing him though. All out, Dooku will be relying on the saber side of things as best he can, while Kun wants to rely on the force side of things. Whoever better presses doing it their way wins.

Well yes he went hybrid mode and it effectively made him completely unpredictable. The fact that he did this with so little effort and mastered it to such a degree with no external aid implies greater skill in the first place. Vodo Siosk Baas weilded his staff as if it was a double-ended weapon and he was clearly out-matched regardless of this.

Dooku takes sabers by a fair margin but not nearly as wide a margin as Exar Kun takes Force power.

Originally posted by AncientPower
The fact that he did this with so little effort and mastered it to such a degree with no external aid implies greater skill in the first place.

Vodo Siosk Baas weilded his staff as if it was a double-ended weapon and he was clearly out-matched regardless of this.

I am looking for nothing so please don't attempt a bias claim. If you read the source material it is stated clearly that Exar Kun was 'far more powerful than any one Jedi of the time', which includes Ulic Qel-Droma, sorry if you disagree but there it is. Whilst I agree that Ulic comes close, It's blatantly apparent that Exar Kun was a step ahead.

Lol.

Yes, when Kun got of all of his Sith trinkets and training he became far more powerful than any Jedi. When Ulic received the same, he became a rival, by Kun's own account. "Sorry if you disagree but there it is."

Kun was more powerful than Ulic, nobody is disputing that. You're just failing to recognize that Sith Ulic is more powerful than Jedi Ulic.

Well of course they both power-scaled. Yes Ulic was a rival, as was Maul to Sidious.

Are you claiming the disparity in their power is akin to the disparity between Maul and Sidious? Either way, as long as you accept that Ulic isn't far off of Exar's power everything will be in working order once again.

As duelists they are close. In actual Force power prime Exar Kun is the clear superior. It's not an opinion but a fact.

Of course it's clear 😂

Compering Ulic or Exar to guys from Clone Wars era (like Dooku, Mace, Maul) is like compering Laver, Emerson or Newcombe to Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.
Or like compering Pele, Maradona, Cruyff to Ronaldinho, Messi or Ronaldo.

Those guys from the old times may have superior achievements, but it's clear, that in their prime they would loose to top players of current times.
Tecniques, balls, rockets, fields - all of this is far more advanced in our times, and can only evolve.
Exar was undoubtedly the strongest guy from his Era. Dooku could not even dream, to be the strongest guy from his own Era. So in terms of achievements, Exar stomps Dooku. In terms of skill and power, Dooku however would beat Exar with moderate difficulty at best.

I'm out 😂

Originally posted by McP
Compering Ulic or Exar to guys from Clone Wars era (like Dooku, Mace, Maul) is like compering Laver, Emerson or Newcombe to Federer, Nadal, Djokovic.
Or like compering Pele, Maradona, Cruyff to Ronaldinho, Messi or Ronaldo.

Those guys from the old times may have superior achievements, but it's clear, that in their prime they would loose to top players of current times.
Tecniques, balls, rockets, fields - all of this is far more advanced in our times, and can only evolve.
Exar was undoubtedly the strongest guy from his Era. Dooku could not even dream, to be the strongest guy from his own Era. So in terms of achievements, Exar stomps Dooku. In terms of skill and power, Dooku however would beat Exar with moderate difficulty at best.

This logic is so flawed I am not even sure it'd be worth trying to debunk it.

Kun would engage Dooku in a duel first and realize that he won't be able to defeat him which would force him to summon his force powers to overwhelm him. At that point, Dooku would lose this imo.

...actually.

How many of Kun's Force powers can Dooku block with his lightsaber? Keep in mind Dooku wants to get in close and keep Kun from getting a chance to blast him, all out.

^All of them sans perhaps the amulet blasts most likely.

Uh, even the sorcery?