Originally posted by WildBantha88Aayla was only put down so rapidly because Vos demonstrated a large telekinetic advantage. Given that he's a pretty powerful guy, I'm not seeing why he couldn't pull something similar off against Ahsoka in the same circumstances.
Feats such as putting up a good fight against Ventress and Grievous show that she wouldn't get put down by Vos as easily as Aayla did.
I just realized I'm posting here semi-seriously. I must be especially f*ckin' bored today.
Originally posted by ILSAayla still lacks Ahsoka's dueling feats and she has no thing to sagest that she can beat Ahsoka with the force so still not seeing how she wins
Aayla was only put down so rapidly because Vos demonstrated a large telekinetic advantage. Given that he's a pretty powerful guy, I'm not seeing why he couldn't pull something similar off against Ahsoka in the same circumstances.I just realized I'm posting here semi-seriously. I must be especially f*ckin' bored today.
Originally posted by WildBantha88Did you just say "sagest"?
Aayla still lacks Ahsoka's dueling feats and she has no thing to sagest that she can beat Ahsoka with the force so still not seeing how she wins
She doesn't really. Beating Aurra Sing and holding even with Vos in sabers are pretty good feats. Ahsoka trades blows with some higher tiers during TCW but she's ultimately outmatched by them, as Aayla would be as well. I just see Aayla as on the whole being the more reliable, experienced combatant.
Originally posted by |King Joker|What are her power feats?
Ahsoka's powerful too, at least, more powerful than K'Kruhk or Aayla I'd imagine. *shrug*
Originally posted by ILS
What are her power feats?
KO's four pirates with a single Force push.
Flattens about a dozen droids and throws around multiple Mando guards and rips their shields from them.
Then there's others I can't find the gifs of at the moment. Pulling down that wall in TCW movie, preventing an avalanche of rock from crushing her with the help of Anakin on Geonosis, etc.
Hmm, not bad. I should really start looking for Aayla's power feats.. I recall her TKing an early Vos but nothing much past that off the top of my head.
I think the important point is, however, that power was the deciding factor in her fight with Vos, not dueling skill. I doubt power would really factor into a fight between Aayla and Ahsoka. The more skilled fighter would win.
Originally posted by ILSAhsoka matching Ventress and Grievous and her getting the better of Pre Visla> everything you just mentioned. In fact Aayla met a less experienced Grievous once and we all know how well that went. She barely survived, where as Ahsoka matched Grievous for a short time before outmaneuvering him and getting away unharmed.
Did you just say "sagest"?She doesn't really. Beating Aurra Sing and holding even with Vos in sabers are pretty good feats. Ahsoka trades blows with some higher tiers during TCW but she's ultimately outmatched by them, as Aayla would be as well. I just see Aayla as on the whole being the more reliable, experienced combatant.
Originally posted by ILS
Hmm, not bad. I should really start looking for Aayla's power feats.. I recall her TKing an early Vos but nothing much past that off the top of my head.I think the important point is, however, that power was the deciding factor in her fight with Vos, not dueling skill. I doubt power would really factor into a fight between Aayla and Ahsoka. The more skilled fighter would win.
Originally posted by WildBantha88Except she didn't "match" Ventress or Grievous. IIRC Vizsla was drunk during that fight, or so I hear, but either way I believe she just messed with his jetpack opposed to outdueling him.
Ahsoka matching Ventress and Grievous and her getting the better of Pre Visla> everything you just mentioned.
Either way I'd say Legends Vos > Vizsla.
In fact Aayla met a less experienced Grievous once and we all know how well that went. She barely survived, where as Ahsoka matched Grievous for a short time before outmaneuvering him and getting away unharmed.I don't understand why this version of Grievous is any less competent than the one we saw in TCW? He was already a master swordsman as a Kaleesh, and was already killing armies of clones as well as Jedi with his bare hands before ever wielding a lightsaber. Add on top of that, that his final trial from Dooku to become the leader of the CIS military was to solo Asajj Ventress and Durge, and it's kind of obvious he was as good as he ever was at that point in time. If Ahsoka fought OCW Grievous she'd get slaughtered, no questions asked. And yeno, Aayla was "exhausted", amirite? 😉
And yeah, no. Ahsoka didn't match Grievous. She generally just plays keep away. Doesn't do a bad job of it mind you, but that's all it really amounts to.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Blows back Ventress a pretty large distance with a one-handed Force push.KO's four pirates with a single Force push.
Flattens about a dozen droids and throws around multiple Mando guards and rips their shields from them.
Then there's others I can't find the gifs of at the moment. Pulling down that wall in TCW movie, preventing an avalanche of rock from crushing her with the help of Anakin on Geonosis, etc.
Here are some others
Originally posted by ILSPre Visla wasn't drunk, that is just a made up excuse to lowball Ahsoka.
Except she didn't "match" Ventress or Grievous. IIRC Vizsla was drunk during that fight, or so I hear, but either way I believe she just messed with his jetpack opposed to outdueling him.Either way I'd say Legends Vos > Vizsla.
I don't understand why this version of Grievous is any less competent than the one we saw in TCW? He was already a master swordsman as a Kaleesh, and was already killing armies of clones as well as Jedi with his bare hands before ever wielding a lightsaber. Add on top of that, that his final trial from Dooku to become the leader of the CIS military was to solo Asajj Ventress and Durge, and it's kind of obvious he was as good as he ever was at that point in time. If Ahsoka fought OCW Grievous she'd get slaughtered, no questions asked. And yeno, Aayla was "exhausted", amirite? 😉And yeah, no. Ahsoka didn't match Grievous. She generally just plays keep away. Doesn't do a bad job of it mind you, but that's all it really amounts to.
And you should rewatch her fight with Grivous. She was dodging his attacks and she even beat Grievous in a saber lock
Originally posted by ILSHe wasn't drunk at all. Ugh. And as an Ataru specialist her outmaneuvering him and striking his jet pack is something that should be expected. I'd say she outdueled him if he failed to defend his back, which is what happened.
IIRC Vizsla was drunk during that fight, or so I hear, but either way I believe she just messed with his jetpack opposed to outdueling him.
And I really wonder what she would have sliced if his jet pack wasn't there I wonder, or if she was aiming for something else.
Originally posted by Selenial
I like that Ant just assumes HK on the star forge is canon because it makes the feat better for Revan....
Well, we know Canderous was for sure, and HK also makes sense.
Then again, it could also be argued that the entire crew was there, and that the 2-companion limit is a game mechanic.