Alright Gladiator attacks the Avengers like he did the FF

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Alright Gladiator attacks the Avengers like he did the FF

Alright lets replace the Fantastic Four in the fight but instead add some Avengers now is isn't current team but a early 90s team. Will this team be able to stop Gladiator even in a blindside attack?

Attacks
Iron Man instead of Thing and it starts in the park
Instead of Invisible Woman it will be Vision
Instead of Franklin it will be Hercules
and Instead of Reed Richards it will be Namor

He kills them all.

Avengers should do way better in this fight.
All your characters are legit strong men (same as, and better than, Ben), with varied power sets that are just more effective than stretching and fire.

http://www.supermegamonkey.net/chronocomic/entries/fantastic_four_249-250.shtml

For anyone interested this is how the fight breaks down...

I think it would be a hell of a fight going towards the Avengers.

@golem: Nah.

He was defeated by Reed tricking him - it was obvious brute force failed miserably. Hercules and Namor wouldn't fare much better. Iron Man conceivably could rig a projector up. Vison is a non-factor, especially his old version....

Vision is a non factor?

Nah.

Between him and IM in the tech/smarts department, they have this.

And as for brute force not working, the FF didnt use brute force.

how's vision a non-factor...? 😕

not sure how glads would hit him, and a phase attack would be a very large problem for glads. in the ff he took them mostly 1 at a time. if this team could work together they have a good chance. his speed is his biggest advantage here. if we use current vision i'd say the team would take it.

To Thing's credit he got up after his k.o with no real damage.

Originally posted by golem370
To Thing's credit he got up after his k.o with no real damage.

Yeah, i love that scene. 👆

Glads stomps

He might.
The Avengers wont get steam rolled like the FF did though.

Originally posted by leonidas
how's vision a non-factor...? 😕

not sure how glads would hit him, and a phase attack would be a very large problem for glads. in the ff he took them mostly 1 at a time. if this team could work together they have a good chance. his speed is his biggest advantage here. if we use current vision i'd say the team would take it.

I thought:

A: 90s versions
B: he fights them like he did the FF. So one at a time.

Glad's speed. Which I had as faster than Vision, even allowing for his enhanced robo reflexes.

@riv:

Thing did. Torch did. IW did. Franklin tried brute force, but had his power blockers.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@riv:

Thing did. Torch did. IW did. Franklin tried brute force, but had his power blockers.


You said brute force.
To me thats strength.

Also, if the fight takes place the exact same way, why bother opining?
Iron Man's going to sound the alert quickly (he had less ego back then), and then its a concerted effort.
Now, if the OP turns out wanting the exact same fight thats great. Not something i care to rehash though.

Originally posted by riv6672
You said brute force.
To me thats strength.

Also, if the fight takes place the exact same way, why bother opining?
Iron Man's going to sound the alert quickly (he had less ego back then), and then its a concerted effort.
Now, if the OP turns out wanting the exact same fight thats great. Not something i care to rehash though.

Ah. Fair enough. I just saw it as force - IOW, here's a threat, let's hit him in a full frontal assault. Fighting like a brute, with no application of any real strategy or of their powers (so IW, rather than opening bubbles in his brain or blinding his eyes or anything like that, attempts to hold him in her strongest force field). That kinda thing.

I thought if he alerts the others, it kinda negates the point of a blindsided attack....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah. Fair enough. I just saw it as force - IOW, here's a threat, let's hit him in a full frontal assault. Fighting like a brute, with no application of any real strategy or of their powers (so IW, rather than opening bubbles in his brain or blinding his eyes or anything like that, attempts to hold him in her strongest force field). That kinda thing.

I thought if he alerts the others, it kinda negates the point of a blindsided attack....

Well yes it'd start as a blind side attack, but different characters will react differently, or again, whats the point?
Also, i'd say brain bubbles and blinded eyes are way more full force than a force field prison.

Originally posted by riv6672
Well yes it'd start as a blind side attack, but different characters will react differently, or again, whats the point?
Also, i'd say brain bubbles and blinded eyes are way more full force than a force field prison.

One's s surgical strike, like a scalpel. Target the eyes, or the brain, minimal force needed - just applied in the right area.

The other is a sledgehammer. Needs less precision and aim. Just encase Glads in a prison, and trust that your ability to contain him is greater than your strength.

Agree to disagree.

The fight gladiator had with the FF was a non-jobbing gladiator. Not one of the characters stood a chance in hell as portrayed in that comic. They were nothing to him as he defeated them all with ease. The only way to stop him was to weaken him further as he was hit with radiation i believe before he came to earth. Using this non-jobbing gladiator would result in the death of these avengers.

Hercules is the only one with strength and skill to hang with glads, vision can phase.or something, uhh thats about it. Namor can be beastly as well but I can see him.getting one shotted.

If team.can somehow manage to.distract Gladiator long enough for Herc to get a KO or submission or something..

Most likely Glads one shots 3 of this 4 man team, and that leaves pretty much two people with "near infinite " strength cept one also.has speed,lasers etc.

Wow, just wow at low balling top tier characters. 😂