Originally posted by iceman24567
You said Surfer would need to be weakened by DC writers for Superman to beat him i said he would beat him without such nonsense. Which you exclaimed "gtfo" you cant even remember the bs you wrote clown?
Puto where talking about fake characters here
. no need to take it to another level
Iv never even seen Superman in real life.
Originally posted by zom1967The problem is we dont base things strictly off of powerset. Surfer can have a superior powerset and still not be as powerful as Superman.
Oh come on,like I said supes is the 1st and greatest hero of all time.But surfers power set is better than his,remember when myxy shrunk metropolis?who made it so it was reset to normal?Norrin did and Superman was damn impressed!with the Surfer`s power set he can do almost anything.
Originally posted by zom1967it doesn't go just by power set , it goes by feats and how comics ACTUALLY work.
Oh come on,like I said supes is the 1st and greatest hero of all time.But surfers power set is better than his,remember when myxy shrunk metropolis?who made it so it was reset to normal?Norrin did and Superman was damn impressed!with the Surfer`s power set he can do almost anything.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Surfers go to is brawling the same as Superman and a prolonged brawl would be in Supermans favor.
Thats not all surfer does. Hes used a variety of different attack methods depending on the opponent and if something doesnt work hes likely to try something else that will. And all those other times he does are what gives him the majority imo.
Originally posted by JayDaDonFine we can agree to disagree .
Thats not all surfer does. Hes used a variety of different attack methods depending on the opponent and if something doesnt work hes likely to try something else that will. And all those other times he does are what gives him the majority imo.
Superman should win the slight to definitive majority against Surfer because weakness exploitation has been virtually nullified. Over the years Superman's weakness exploitation has mostly been a creation of writers forced into a corner as well as envious battle board users that are entrenched in their character's perspective only. What I mean is kryptonite from different universes doesn't work, red light has been overcome, and magic is always a problem(not in this battle though) but also overcome when self restrain is turned off. The speed difference between superman and surfer at the very least in combat acceleration is the true deciding factor in superman's favor plus the power difference is substantially in superman's favor as well. Intangibility is also within superman's powerset. Surfer definitely is more versatile and has some esoteric abilities but these abilities are not enough to bridge the gap for the majority of wins considering superman's acceleration (possibly more than two orders of magnitude greater) and power from his limbs. Anyway Surfer is still amazing and his new arc by Dan Slott is absolutely amazing and think surfer will have some more amazing cartoony rendered feats coming every issue to boost his showings so there you go... 😉 cheers
Re: Silver Surfer Vs DCnu Top Five
Originally posted by riv6672
This one'll take a bit, since no one will agree on the first part.1. List your top five most powerful heroes, Superman (high herald) level and below, in the DCnu.
2. Decide if Silver Surfer, permanently shunted to the DCnu, breaks into that top five.
3. If yes, decide who gets bumped from the list. Add a why if you want.
1. Superman >= Martian Manhunter >= Captain Atom >= Wonder Woman >= Hal Jordan
2+3. SS would replace CA, CA is a C-Lister, popularity wise, and their powersets are similar enough.
Originally posted by "Id"Surfer is never really the go to guy. The only time he's really that is when it directly relates to him or he gets called in to come out of nowhere, make one appearance and deal with some super strong ass hole and then he's gone.
Surfer would take the Spot Light of a GL, as the go to person involving deep space adventure's, but not the Stature of the go to person in anything involving DC.In terms of ability he would be top 5.
If Surfer were to transport to DC with all personality intact, all he'd do is wander around space. If he came in contact with Earth he'd make an odd random appearance to beat up some heavy metal dick.
If we're fitting him into DC personality wise as well as power and wondering how his role would fit in to that universe.
Whether he is or isn't more powerful than Superman is irrelevant, because he wouldn't be there to defend Earth. I think he's more powerful personally, but he still wouldn't be the guy. He wouldn't even be a guy 99 percent of the time. The only real comparison to what he does would be a non Earth GL or something along those lines. Except he'd probably abduct some Earth girl.
With that said, it'd be hilarious to see him meet MM and MM go into a rage fit and get blasted to shit.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Surfer is never really the go to guy. The only time he's really that is when it directly relates to him or he gets called in to come out of nowhere, make one appearance and deal with some super strong ass hole and then he's gone.If Surfer were to transport to DC with all personality intact, all he'd do is wander around space. If he came in contact with Earth he'd make an odd random appearance to beat up some heavy metal dick.
If we're fitting him into DC personality wise as well as power and wondering how his role would fit in to that universe.
Whether he is or isn't more powerful than Superman is irrelevant, because he wouldn't be there to defend Earth. I think he's more powerful personally, but he still wouldn't be the guy. He wouldn't even be a guy 99 percent of the time. The only real comparison to what he does would be a non Earth GL or something along those lines. Except he'd probably abduct some Earth girl.
With that said, it'd be hilarious to see him meet MM and MM go into a rage fit and get blasted to shit.
Well said and perfectly put.