Originally posted by carver9it wouldnt really be much of a protection spell if it allowed one to punch through it. the way I see it, the only reason Supes could grab him was because until he put the "sqeeze" on it wasn'tn't percieved by the spell as an attack.
What if Superman would've punched him instead of grabbing him?
Also on the whole "depends on if Superman knows who he's facing" argument. Has something happened to relieve Suoes of his suoer senses? Doesnt he have super visiin, super hearing? Doesnt he know John constsntine and what he's capable of? Can someone tell me how Suoes would not sense John tense etc when he sees him and know that hes planning to face him. Not hear him start to speak. What likelihood is there in a forum fight that he would allow him to finish that word??
Just out of curiosity, who did John Constantine drop, with a single word, that was on the level of Superman?
Originally posted by beatboks
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11/113883/3036394-2817509456-26217.jpgAh yes, this is what prep would do for the fight.
Yeah, that's a protection spell, but not exactly of the nature I was asking. In other words, that tells us nothing of the amount of damage John could soak up with a spell.
Originally posted by SurturFrankenstein:
Just out of curiosity, who did John Constantine drop, with a single word, that was on the level of Superman?
Originally posted by Galan007
Frankenstein:
http://i.imgur.com/6EBKNPV.jpg
What has Nu Frankenstein done on the level of Nu Supes?
Originally posted by Galan007
Shown that he is strong enough to contend with, and/or beat, the likes of:
OMAC
Shazam
Dianna
No idea how powerful Omac is, but did Shazam or Diana actually fight..well, intelligently? As in, not forgetting their powers?
He's also demonstrated immunity to high-level magics. So yeah.
If he's immune to high level magics how is John Constantine doing anything to him? Why'd they make him into Dr. Fate for no reason? Wait is Dr. Fate dead?
Originally posted by SurturOMAC is a herald-level team-wrecker. The others fought and were overpowered. Strength-wise Frank is an elite.
No idea how powerful Omac is, but did Shazam or Diana actually fight..well, intelligently? As in, not forgetting their powers?If he's immune to high level magics how is John Constantine doing anything to him? Why'd they make him into Dr. Fate for no reason? Wait is Dr. Fate dead?
Because Constantine's magic>the high-level magics Frank demonstrated immunity to? 😕
Originally posted by SurturOwns Blight with a spell, and prepares yet another spell that could have killed Blight outright had Swamp Thing and Nightmare Nurse been able to hold him/it a little longer:
Just out of curiosity, who did John Constantine drop, with a single word, that was on the level of Superman?Yeah, that's a protection spell, but not exactly of the nature I was asking. In other words, that tells us nothing of the amount of damage John could soak up with a spell.
Owns one of the Seven Deadly Sins:
http://imgur.com/rnDKemU
After traveling to Heaven, John avoids a physical punch from Spectre with a teleportation spell:
http://imgur.com/X2PTphI
http://imgur.com/WSeQwJ9
http://imgur.com/IbvwXGT
http://imgur.com/o826j6R
Teleports out of Heaven, and is able to outrun Zauriel long enough to reach the House of Mystery and invoke a 'Celestial Circle' imprisonment spell that is strong enough to trap Zauriel in the material world:
http://imgur.com/0wo8zRu
http://imgur.com/6bGJjy3
http://imgur.com/1wZJdho
http://imgur.com/EZ6u7ki
John and Nightmare Nurse invoke a 'Blackmare Curse'--one of the more complex spells in existence. It transforms its user into a literal demon and releases all of their inner darkness. After this curse was activated, the duo did extremely well against Blight, but NN pulled John away and negated the spell before he killed Blight's innocent host:
http://imgur.com/2T69HOg
http://i.imgur.com/H6ACriP.jpg
http://imgur.com/XF99phf
http://imgur.com/us5cxN6
http://imgur.com/fbJMZrz
http://imgur.com/6RrXD9Y
Constantine owns Frankenstein, Nightmare Nurse, Deadman, and Black Orchid with an omnidirectional blast:
http://imgur.com/9ZbAPJw
http://imgur.com/9eAwE3F
John displaces Frankenstein's sword into a pocket dimension, before downing him with a single word:
http://imgur.com/6EBKNPV
It took me a grand total of two minute's in constantine's respect thread to find this.
Originally posted by Galan007Well JLD are no Superman in term of reputation in universe. He was pretty much helpless when Diana threatened him in Trinity War and Frank had to help him.
[B]His fight against the JLD, for starters. He walked in and just started wrecking them(poor Frank 🙁.)So yeah, he's done it.
Originally posted by Galan007
Shown that he is strong enough to contend with, and/or beat, the likes of:
OMAC
Shazam
DiannaHe's also demonstrated immunity to high-level magics. So yeah.
Originally posted by deathslash
Owns Blight with a spell, and prepares yet another spell that could have killed Blight outright had Swamp Thing and Nightmare Nurse been able to hold him/it a little longer:
http://imgur.com/NSeePEC
http://imgur.com/T8wVGoo
http://imgur.com/eElxkel
http://imgur.com/2FXDbkg
http://imgur.com/lzJNGglOwns one of the Seven Deadly Sins:
http://imgur.com/rnDKemUAfter traveling to Heaven, John avoids a physical punch from Spectre with a teleportation spell:
http://imgur.com/X2PTphI
http://imgur.com/WSeQwJ9
http://imgur.com/IbvwXGT
http://imgur.com/o826j6RTeleports out of Heaven, and is able to outrun Zauriel long enough to reach the House of Mystery and invoke a 'Celestial Circle' imprisonment spell that is strong enough to trap Zauriel in the material world:
http://imgur.com/0wo8zRu
http://imgur.com/6bGJjy3
http://imgur.com/1wZJdho
http://imgur.com/EZ6u7kiJohn and Nightmare Nurse invoke a 'Blackmare Curse'--one of the more complex spells in existence. It transforms its user into a literal demon and releases all of their inner darkness. After this curse was activated, the duo did extremely well against Blight, but NN pulled John away and negated the spell before he killed Blight's innocent host:
http://imgur.com/2T69HOg
http://i.imgur.com/H6ACriP.jpg
http://imgur.com/XF99phf
http://imgur.com/us5cxN6
http://imgur.com/fbJMZrz
http://imgur.com/6RrXD9YConstantine owns Frankenstein, Nightmare Nurse, Deadman, and Black Orchid with an omnidirectional blast:
http://imgur.com/9ZbAPJw
http://imgur.com/9eAwE3FJohn displaces Frankenstein's sword into a pocket dimension, before downing him with a single word:
http://imgur.com/6EBKNPVIt took me a grand total of two minute's in constantine's respect thread to find this.
Originally posted by abhilegendHow did you reach that conclusion? There's like a grand total of two feats there that take time for constantine to build. Not only that, but in one of those two examples, constantine generates a shield that briefly keeps Blight from attacking him.
Most of those aren't exactly on the spot, ready to use spells.
Originally posted by Galan007
Frankenstein:
http://i.imgur.com/6EBKNPV.jpg
