Kingdom Come Superman Vs DCnU Superman

Probably won't happen in Convergence, but who wins if they meet?

Superman wins

Kingdom Come Superman gets my vote.

I don't recall KC Supes having strength feats on the level of DCnU Supes bench pressing a planet.

As evident by their scuffle(s) with Hercules, E22 Supes was decisively beyond pre-Flashpoint Supes, who in turn was decisively beyond his post-Flashpoint counterpart in the feat department.

Going with E22 Superman here.

KC Superman wins.

While i was thinking more experience as being a huge factor, the power does favor KC Supes.

^ You have to post the entire scene. Helps paint a much better picture:

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Originally posted by Galan007
As evident by their scuffle(s) with Hercules, E22 Supes was decisively beyond pre-Flashpoint Supes, who in turn was decisively beyond his post-Flashpoint counterpart in the feat department.

Going with E22 Superman here.

You are throwing around terms like E22 Supes and Flashpoint and all that, but it sounds like you just said post crisis Superman was more powerful then the current Nu DC Superman. Not only more powerful, but decisively more powerful. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

Originally posted by riv6672
While i was thinking more experience as being a huge factor, the power does favor KC Supes.

How powerful is that version of Herc?

Originally posted by Surtur
Uh, wait..what? You are throwing around terms like E22 Supes and Flashpoint and all that, but it sounds like you just said post crisis Superman was more powerful then the current Nu DC Superman. Not only more powerful, but decisively more powerful. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

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Why do you cling to fts like this? Hyperion pushed 2 Universes away with nothing but brute strength, and fought against 100's of abstracts and held his own, does that means he is significantly more powerful than Superman. Sometimes you need to balance out fts and look at FIGHTS and ALL of the characters showings as well.

Originally posted by carver9
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Why do you cling to fts like this? Hyperion pushed 2 Universes away with nothing but brute strength, and fought against 100's of abstracts and held his own, does that means he is significantly more powerful than Superman. Sometimes you need to balance out fts and look at FIGHTS and ALL of the characters showings as well.

Dude did you just ask if a guy who can physically push away a universe is more powerful then Superman?

Is the implication that Hyperion's feats since his universe feat are so far below that level? Which, if that is the case, sure..he is not more powerful then Superman. If he hasn't done much besides physically push apart universes and fight a bunch of abstracts? Yes, he kind of is more powerful then Superman.

Originally posted by Surtur
You are throwing around terms like E22 Supes and Flashpoint and all that, but it sounds like you just said post crisis Superman was more powerful then the current Nu DC Superman. Not only more powerful, but decisively more powerful. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you.

Originally posted by Galan007
Where feats are concerned, pre-Flashpoint Supes>post-Flashpoint Supes, yes.

I see, so you feel post crisis Supes consistently showed himself to be on the strength level where he could bench press the planet for 5 days straight? Yet at one point that version of Superman required assistance just to move the moon.

Like all characters, post-Flashpoint Superman has highs AND lows--which are what we use to find an 'average'. His pre-Flashpoint counterpart simply has far more highs to balance the lows... DecadeS-worth.

Originally posted by Galan007
Like all characters, post-Flashpoint Superman has highs AND lows--which are what we use to find an 'average'. His pre-Flashpoint counterpart simply has far more highs to balance the lows... DecadeS-worth.

So just to be clear here, what is being said? Post crisis Superman is on the level of Nu Supes, but average Nu Supes, not high end?

Pre-Flashpoint Supes has better feats than his post-Flashpoint counterpart. His highs are better all around; his average is better all around. I cannot say it any clearer than that.

Originally posted by Surtur
I see, so you feel post crisis Supes consistently showed himself to be on the strength level where he could bench press the planet for 5 days straight? Yet at one point that version of Superman required assistance just to move the moon.

And what makes you think DCnu Superman has consistently showed himself to be on the strength level where he could bench press the planet for 5 days straight?

Is not all about single highend feats you know?

Originally posted by Squirtle
And what makes you think DCnu Superman has [b]consistently showed himself to be on the strength level where he could bench press the planet for 5 days straight?

Is not all about single highend feats you know? [/B]

So yeah, he is at that level.