Vince has some racist leanings, yes, but I think it's more of a general bigotry than racism. The guy loves his stereotypes, and being as out of touch as he is, he's just going to be stuck in some old ways. That said, I honestly don't think he'd stop a black guy from becoming champion again. Kevin Dunn, probably though. He seems like a real ****.
HHH? Not sure, but I would say not really, even taking in to account THAT FEUD with Booker T.
Stephanie? No.
Though I will admit, I think their problem with sexism is just as bad as their problem with race at times.
Well from what I can tell, most really offensive stereotypes based gimmicks for Black wrestlers were ideas from black wrestlers or were heavily beloved by the wrestler. Pastor Devon, Crime Tyme, New Day, & Big Zeke were all gimmicks they created and Kamala was the thing that saved an uneducated, poor, illiterate mans life.
As far as why aren't there aren't more top stars that are black, the truth is that nowhere in wrestling is there top tier black talents waiting to be signed. I'm not saying there isn't great talent in the indies who are black, but outside of Jay Lethal & (hopefully) Uhaa Nation I don't see any main event guys.
Originally posted by -Pr-Kevin Dunn is a piece of 💩
Vince has some racist leanings, yes, but I think it's more of a general bigotry than racism. The guy loves his stereotypes, and being as out of touch as he is, he's just going to be stuck in some old ways. That said, I honestly don't think he'd stop a black guy from becoming champion again. Kevin Dunn, probably though. He seems like a real ****.HHH? Not sure, but I would say not really, even taking in to account THAT FEUD with Booker T.
Stephanie? No.
Though I will admit, I think their problem with sexism is just as bad as their problem with race at times.
Vince worships the almighty dollar.
Period.
He is arrogant, pompous, and tone-deaf but he would never allow race to limit his success.
If you are looking for stone cold racists there are people like Ole Anderson who is a notorious bigot. Harley Race wanted to give Tony Atlas the NWA title back in 1980 for 2 weeks while he was in Japan, that lowlife, Anderson, refused.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Well from what I can tell, most really offensive stereotypes based gimmicks for Black wrestlers were ideas from black wrestlers or were heavily beloved by the wrestler. Pastor Devon, Crime Tyme, New Day, & Big Zeke were all gimmicks they created and Kamala was the thing that saved an uneducated, poor, illiterate mans life.As far as why aren't there aren't more top stars that are black, the truth is that nowhere in wrestling is there top tier black talents waiting to be signed. I'm not saying there isn't great talent in the indies who are black, but outside of Jay Lethal & (hopefully) Uhaa Nation I don't see any main event guys.
While I would agree with you in part, there's no way I can agree on the New Day. For months, anytime anyone asked Xavier Woods what the new stable was going to be, his answer was generally "nothing to do with being black", and yet the stable was about black ministers that was stereotyped to hell.
It's changing now, it seems, to have a darker element to it which is good, but I can't help but feel the direction it took initially was from on high.
Originally posted by juggerman
I wanna say those comments were just for heat. At least I hope that's all it was for. Booker doesn't seem to have any ill will toward HHH.
Oh, I agree. And I think a lot of what people see as racism was actually anti-WCW sentiment. I just know that a lot of people see it as being racist, so I wanted to cover all of the bases.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
So what is holding back an Asian top tier guy? Muta was treated as top tier but since then, I cant remember a serious top tier Asian superstar since...Itami has struggled to connect in NXT, and a bit could be a language gap, granted Itami speaks english.
if I had to guess, I would bet it's a combination of size and promo ability that they might be lacking.
Hoping itami bucks the trend, though.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
So what is holding back an Asian top tier guy? Muta was treated as top tier but since then, I cant remember a serious top tier Asian superstar since...Itami has struggled to connect in NXT, and a bit could be a language gap, granted Itami speaks english.
Originally posted by -Pr-Kevin Dunn is an assh@le to a T.
Vince has some racist leanings, yes, but I think it's more of a general bigotry than racism. The guy loves his stereotypes, and being as out of touch as he is, he's just going to be stuck in some old ways. That said, I honestly don't think he'd stop a black guy from becoming champion again. Kevin Dunn, probably though. He seems like a real ****.HHH? Not sure, but I would say not really, even taking in to account THAT FEUD with Booker T.
Stephanie? No.
Though I will admit, I think their problem with sexism is just as bad as their problem with race at times.