Who strikes harder Cage or Iron Fist?

For the record, Bres also tossed around Captain Hero there, who repeatedly treated Luke Cage like a lightweight.

Originally posted by cdtm

First, Bres didn't manhandle Thor there. In fact Thor koed him in the very next page after Tony's armor cancelled his magic.

Second, Danny suckershotted Bres there.

Originally posted by Existere
OP says "which best friend has the best striking feats?"

Danny does.

Iron Fist by his nature has a huge range of showings of striking power. Measuring consistency would really favour Cage, whose power is static and passive, vs. Danny, who can hit harder depending on his chi.

Originally posted by abhilegend
First, Bres didn't manhandle Thor there. In fact Thor koed him in the very next page after Tony's armor cancelled his magic.

Second, Danny suckershotted Bres there.

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Thor's pretty obviously struggling there. At the least, Bres is Thor's physical equal.

And defeating Bres by throwing a big iron suit at him is as impressive as hitting pre crisis Superman with a kryptonite club covered in magic under a red sun. Iron is his weakness.

Danny straight up KOed him without weakness exploitation. KOing a peer to Thor is impressive, any way you slice it. Spidey certainly couldn't KO Thor via sucker punch.

Originally posted by cdtm
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Thor's pretty obviously struggling there. At the least, Bres is Thor's physical equal.

Danny straight up KOed him without weakness exploitation. KOing a peer to Thor is impressive, any way you slice it. Spidey certainly couldn't KO Thor via sucker punch.

Hold that thought.

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/WebofSpider-Man105-13-1.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/WebofSpider-Man105-14-1.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
[B]Wut? Landing a few punches suddenly means he was equal to Thor?

And Count Nefaria taking a few punches and knocking Thor down doesn't mean shit either, I suppose?

Come off it. He staggered Thor with a punch, overrode the Odin enchantment on his hammer, and was doing well enough in his shoving match with Thor to make She Hulk worried.

And on top of that, he overpowered Captain Hero, who's stong enough to knock Cage halfway across a city and generally toy with him, and later revealed as Super Skrull.

It just shorted out his magic. Not his strength.

Bres's magic didn't affect Iron because he's a Fomore, based off Irish folklore, where Iron is used as a ward against supernatural entities. It's the same thing as the Elves or whatever in Thor comic being weak against the stuff.

Danny.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Hold that thought.

1. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/WebofSpider-Man105-13-1.jpg
2. http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/WebofSpider-Man105-14-1.jpg

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That was all in his head

I figured as much. 😂

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
That was all in his head

Even if it wasn't, Spiderman said 'they tore each other apart'.

^ But it was. Pete confirmed as much at the end of the issue:

Iron Fist hand down. At this level it's literally his Hat to amp to plot device levels if necessary. So its a bit of an unfair competition because Iron Fist hitting at his hardest is actual plot device as part of the characters kit. For instance take uberpowered brick that the average martial artist stands no chance against. Danny must defeat him but has been unable to tickle him with his skills so far. FAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLCCCCCCCOOOOOOONNNNNNNN PAAAAAAAAWWWWWWNNNNNN-------- I mean Iron Fist!!! so yeah

Originally posted by Galan007
^ But it was. Pete confirmed as much at the end of the issue:

You have everything. So it really did happen? Nice showing for Spidey. Didn't seem real at all and his previous words seemed contradictory.

carver, did you even look at the scans? It was all just a mental illusion--that is what those 2 pages confirm. srsly

Originally posted by carver9
You have everything. So it really did happen? Nice showing for Spidey. Didn't seem real at all and his previous words seemed contradictory.

Where does it say this "really" happened?

Peter mentions something about a soulscape? And, the dialogue doesn't sound like them, or even like they're trying to kill him: "Have you come to terms with what is gnawing at your soul, or must this needless fight go on?"

Originally posted by Galan007
carver, did you even look at the scans? It was all just a mental illusion--that is what those 2 pages confirm. srsly

I read it differently but I guess I can see where you get that from.

Originally posted by cdtm
Where does it say this "really" happened?

Peter mentions something about a soulscape? And, the dialogue doesn't sound like them, or even like they're trying to kill him: "Have you come to terms with what is gnawing at your soul, or must this needless fight go on?"

Yeah, I read that part. Understandable.

Originally posted by Galan007
carver, did you even look at the scans? It was all just a mental illusion--that is what those 2 pages confirm. srsly

Technically no it wasn't all a mental illusion. He was seeing his friends and family when it actually was the Goddess's army fighting him.

Semantics.

The point is that he wasn't really fighting Thor, Wanda, Pietro, Carnage, etc. etc. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Semantics.

The point is that he wasn't really fighting Thor, Wanda, Pietro, Carnage, etc. etc. 👆

He actually was fighting Thor, Wanda, Pietro just not carnage or his friends. The panels were showing what was actually happening and the other was showing what Peter saw. All due to Moondragon.

Perhaps I'm remembering it wrong, but Moon Knight's own book tied into this fight.... I think