Originally posted by DreampantherJust because Maximus "triumphed again and again", does not make him better then Spartacus.
I did. Watch him getting his @ss kicked. Quite a few times. While Maximus triumphed, again and again.Thus your argument, and therefore your conclusion, is invalid, null and void.
So far, the only person who has offered any kind of proof that Spartacus might provide a brief moment of entertainment before Maximus disembowels him is TheVaultDweller.
Playa and Relentless provided no evidence whatsoever, while your feats stemmed from a 50-year old movie. If you go and look on IMDB you will find about seven different movies about Spartacus. Perhaps you need to restart this thread and specify exactly which Spartacus you want to pit against Maximus.
So far, Spartacus is being destroyed. Not because he is a bad fighter, but because you provide absolutely no feats to support his prowess.
Maximus still stands undefeated. Spartacus lies on the ground, trying stuff his intestines back into his stomach.
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?
Originally posted by Jmanghan
I'm trying to argue only with stuff I can remember, since making arguments using a ps vita is very hard, as there is no copy and paste option.
Fair enough, but you don't need to copy and paste. You can just type out a description of the scene you are referring to, to support the feat you are claiming for Spartacus. Then, if I want to disprove it or counter your claim, it is up to me to go look up the scene and come back with evidence to refute your argument, as I did with TheVaultDweller.
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Originally posted by Dreampanther
Ah, okay, let's take it point by point:- I think you may be misremembering things as well. Crixus turns his back to him a few times out of contempt, never bothering to follow up one of his blows with a finishing strike as he would with a serious contestant. It finishes when Spartacus throws his sword at Crixus's back, who then strikes it out of the air killing one of the recruits.
- Doctori doesn't even bother to use more than his unarmed right hand to strike Spartacus to the ground. None of the trained, experienced gladiators show more than contempt or ease when dealing with him.
- Spartacus does perform slightly better when dealing with the other recruits, and his second showing against Crixus during the test after he has been training for a while also shows some promise.
Perhaps this has caused the confusion?
I'd put end of series Spartacus above Oenomaus as well (though maybe not his prime, who survived Theokoles on his own), and seeing how easily even doctore Oenomaus handled Crixus and Spartacus at the same time during the first series, in their preparation for Theokoles, it shows how much of an improvement he made.
Originally posted by Dreampanther
- Apologies for Gannicus. I just called him Tarzan most of the time 😛 It is nice to find out that they are proven to be more or less equals, as it gives me something to look forward to in the final season. But it still does not change my argument that Maximus beats somebody exactly like Gannicus.At least you and I seem to agree about Achilles and Leonidas, though. 😄
Thing is we don't know whether Spartacus would have had the opportunity to do the same, in terms of winning his freedom. They instead found an even messier way than even Gladiator duels to get their freedom. By the end of the show, Spartacus has tons of feats of doing things that Maximus does, and more. Defeating highly rated and highly skilled opponents, who all have on screen combat feats, as well as easily slaughtering his way throw scores of regular soldiers, mercenaries etc. And he did still beat 4 trained gladiators, untrained, armed with a shitty sword and wearing what amounted to a man diaper. Though he was super bloodlusted when he did this, which actually makes a big difference with Spartacus. Like Gannicus, when he goes into full rage mode he becomes much more dangerous.
Personally I vote for Achilles. The guy, on multiple occasions, literally took out the very best warrior their opposition had to offer, one-on-one.