Originally posted by carver9
It's a good question tbh? What's your answer on it?
Of course, thats also why i asked this question. See what people think makes the team tick and why, who's deadweight, etc.
The answers have been interesting so far!
Originally posted by riv6672
Mine?
He's the speed guy.
I understand others can do speed on the team but, he's the expert.
Same as WW is a powerhouse, but Supes is THE powerhouse. Hell, Supes can replicate 90% of what the others do (tech, speed, space travel, survive underwater, ranged attacks, leadership...) doesnt mean they shouldnt be there.
Thats why its a team.Of course, thats also why i asked this question. See what people think makes the team tick and why, who's deadweight, etc.
The answers have been interesting so far!
Everything you've said is true but the thing with that is, there are people on the team, including Surfer, that can replicate what he has done so far. If running fast is the only thing he is bringing to the table, I just don't think it's enough.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What does Flash add?
Speed. That's his niche, someone mentioned before that Diana brings a magic edge. Well so does Authur. Alotta things can be replicated in comics but what teams need is experts in particular fields. Sure norrin is fast but he doesn't add to the dynamic. U can't have a team of Jordans. It won't mesh
Someone made a thread about Cap vs Beast right. And the people who don't read comics or simply at stat whores whined about how beast should win. True beast has some clearly superhuman stats. But he's no fighter. He's a scientist that's his niche. Then the naysayers are well beast is smarter. So what? Intelligence doesn't transfer into combat experience otherwise every nerd on this board would've been the bully instead of being bullied growing up. It's common sense really
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Speed. That's his niche, someone mentioned before that Diana brings a magic edge. Well so does Authur. Alotta things can be replicated in comics but what teams need is experts in particular fields. Sure norrin is fast but he doesn't add to the dynamic. U can't have a team of Jordans. It won't mesh
What has DCnU Barry added to the team dynamic? Arthur also adds the environmental dimension.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What has DCnU Barry added to the team dynamic? Arthur also adds the environmental dimension.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
U can't have a team of Jordans. It won't mesh
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Someone made a thread about Cap vs Beast right. And the people who don't read comics or simply at stat whores whined about how beast should win. True beast has some clearly superhuman stats. But he's no fighter. He's a scientist that's his niche. Then the naysayers are well beast is smarter. So what? Intelligence doesn't transfer into combat experience otherwise every nerd on this board would've been the bully instead of being bullied growing up. It's common sense really
Originally posted by riv6672
I guess you're mind's made up on this one. 😛
Sin I Am covers my take on things below, but, again, i think everyone's team building technique is pretty interesting.
Ha, I guess I haven't really seen much of Barry's personality in the DCnU JLa, hence my q.
Batman - the brooding leader who calls out the plays and tactics
Superman - the actual leader who inspires, the figurehead
Cyborg - the mortar holding all the bricks together, directing people to where they're needed. The newbie who is on a journey with the JLA
GL - the cocky human ('peep the lightshow!'😉. Adds some humour to the group - otherwise, it would be dour and serious as hell.
WW - out of place God of War, who brings bloodthirstiness when required. Also, the mystical dimension to things.
Arthur - the ruler who accepts he's no longer the biggest fish in the pond, but still has much to contribute and is the eco-warrior side of the group.
That's my difficulty. I could see it in pre-Flashpoint Wally; his banter with Kyle was good. In the DCnU, they've tried to acknowledge it a bit, but it has not come across as before. I guess that's where I am coming from...
That's my difficulty. I could see it in pre-Flashpoint Wally; his banter with Kyle was good. In the DCnU, they've tried to acknowledge it a bit, but it has not come across as before. I guess that's where I am coming from...
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ha, I guess I haven't really seen much of Barry's personality in the DCnU JLa, hence my q.Batman - the brooding leader who calls out the plays and tactics
Superman - the actual leader who inspires, the figurehead
Cyborg - the mortar holding all the bricks together, directing people to where they're needed. The newbie who is on a journey with the JLA
GL - the cocky human ('peep the lightshow!'😉. Adds some humour to the group - otherwise, it would be dour and serious as hell.
WW - out of place God of War, who brings bloodthirstiness when required. Also, the mystical dimension to things.
Arthur - the ruler who accepts he's no longer the biggest fish in the pond, but still has much to contribute and is the eco-warrior side of the group.That's my difficulty. I could see it in pre-Flashpoint Wally; his banter with Kyle was good. In the DCnU, they've tried to acknowledge it a bit, but it has not come across as before. I guess that's where I am coming from...
I thought you were talking about usefulness in a fighting scenario. Well he's...Hal's best friend? Who else would he bounce his banter off of? Also it never hurts to have another genius/ forensic scientist around.
Originally posted by JayDaDon
I thought you were talking about usefulness in a fighting scenario. Well he's...Hal's best friend? Who else would he bounce his banter off of? Also it never hurts to have another genius/ forensic scientist around.
My first posts WERE about fighting. Then Sin and Abhi came in, and challenged me. Talked about team dynamics and such. So my question then was, OK, what team dynamic angle does Barry have?
He's just the straight man to Hal in their relationship. Which can EASILY be Surfer - witness how stoic and straight-faced J'onn used to be in the pre-Flashpoint JLA? Surfer can fill that gap. Someone who is unable to grasp Earth humour and customs, and Hal would just bounce off him.
I thought about the forensices etc - but again, he hasn't been utilised like that in the DCnU JLA. Mostly it has been Bats and Cyborg. If Barry wasn't there, he wouldn't be missed - except he'd now be replaced by a guy with Cosmic Awareness.
Just a few thoughts.