Darth Maul vs. Asajj Ventress & Ahsoka Tano

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Both cases just prove fighting 2 opponents is not always A big deal(even less so for Jar Kai wielders).

Both these 2 are solidly below Maul so he can beat them both together. If they were both just slightly below him then it'd be a different case altogether.

Let's not forget Maul stomped Opress 1 v 1, and Opress is about equal to Ventress (although he actually beat her when they fought).

Savage lost to Maul so quickly mainly because of Maul's chicken legs. A hulking, cumbersome fellow like Savage would not do well against such contraptions, and evidently did not. Ventress was doing extremely well against Savage only with one saber, and he didn't really beat her, honestly.

Maul had Savage beat before he foot grabbed his face. He could've just as easily plunged his lightsaber through Savage's chest.

She loses when she is forced to submit, knocked out, or killed.

That is a loss.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Maul had Savage beat before he foot grabbed his face. He could've just as easily plunged his lightsaber through Savage's chest.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
No he didn't.

Tell me how he could not have just as easily skewered Savage with the saber in his right hand.

Damn, I thought Maul beat Savage via his chicken legs.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Damn, I thought Maul beat Savage via his chicken leg.

laem

Originally posted by Emperordmb
He had Savage disarmed :/

Tell me how he could not have just as easily skewered Savage with the saber in his right hand.

Savage is no slouch in H2H.

It's definitely possible he could've gotten out of it, just not likely.

When things aren't clear, you can't count that as a loss.

That's like saying if someone got you in a choke hold in a fight irl, you'd be done
for. But not necessarily, there are plenty of ways to get out of that choke hold.

Except that kinda was an insta-win :/ Maul won that fight, and the point of that fight was to demonstrate Maul's superiority.

Savage gets arm twisted. Kicks lightsaber out of Maul's hand. Or, turns the tables and twists his arm behind his back.

If you are going to say Opress isn't capable of doing that, you haven't seen him fight H2H.

He's a master of H2H, Maul is too, but that doesn't make it an automatic win because he's holding the lightsaber.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Savage gets arm twisted. Kicks lightsaber out of Maul's hand. Or, turns the tables and twists his arm behind his back.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
If you are going to say Opress isn't capable of doing that, you haven't seen him fight H2H.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
He's a master of H2H, Maul is too, but that doesn't make it an automatic win because he's holding the lightsaber.

The point about him holding the lightsaber, is that he could've easily struck Savage with it, given that Savage was unable to prevent Maul from striking him with his leg.

I'm really not seeing how you disagree with me that Maul defeated Savage in that fight :/

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Ventress is in the same tier as Maul and Kenobi and doesn't really lack a good Force defense, unlike Kenobi.

Huh? She doesn't lack good Force denese? She has as pathetic Force defense as Kenobi has. And I wouldn't say, that she's in the same league with Kenobi and Maul. She's - like Opress and Koon - below them.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
That was just his finishing move. He had Savage disarmed and defenseless before that.

Originally posted by McP
Huh? She doesn't lack good Force denese? She has as pathetic Force defense as Kenobi has. And I wouldn't say, that she's in the same league with Kenobi and Maul. She's - like Opress and Koon - below them.

This.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Not really. The only person who ****ed her with the Force was Dooku, who is above Maul.

And Anakin

Originally posted by |King Joker|
She's still fighting two high caliber duelists simultaneously. Shouldn't just be written off as "not a big deal." Not seeing how Ventress is solidly below Maul, since again, they're both peers to Kenobi.

I don't believe Ventress is a peer to Kenobi. I don't think Kenobi's ever truly gone all out on Ventress. He has gone all out on Opress and we saw what happened when he did.

Kenobi jobs a lot, but when he fights properly him and Maul are peers and they are solidly above Ventress and Opress Imho.

Originally posted by Nephthys
And Anakin

them days when people thought TCW Ahsoka and Ventress together could beat Maul.....

I know

Ventress solos

What the hell is going on in here?