Originally posted by Silent Master
Cyclops doesn't have heat vision, he has optic blasts which are concussive force and Bobby(Iceman) didn't display anywhere ear enough power to suggest he could freeze Godzilla.
Well he does if he takes off his visor.
And Godzilla, in the '99 movie, doesn't have any feats to suggest she could survive Bobby's(thank you for the help) freeze powers, especially since she is a cold blooded lizard.
Originally posted by Lestov16
Weapon xi should be able to do it, provided PIS/CIS is off
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about weapon X.
He should thrash here.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Well he does if he takes off his visor.And Godzilla, in the '99 movie, doesn't have any feats to suggest she could survive Bobby's(thank you for the help) freeze powers, especially since she is a cold blooded lizard.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about weapon X.
He should thrash here.
She is so big, she can tunnel under ground through solid earth with ease, burrow and walk through skyscrapers like they are a house of cards. Some icing on her skin would break apart as soon as she moved. This is like peanuts vs a city sized monster. Some insects with some powers would be like a a bee sting...
Bobbys ice was broken apart from a hand grenade....
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Well he does if he takes off his visor.And Godzilla, in the '99 movie, doesn't have any feats to suggest she could survive Bobby's(thank you for the help) freeze powers, especially since she is a cold blooded lizard.
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about weapon X.
He should thrash here.
Taking off his visor doesn't turn Cyclops' optic blasts into heat vision and seeing as Bobby has zero feats to suggest that he can freeze Godzilla, GZ doesn't need feats of withstanding being frozen.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
She is so big, she can tunnel under ground through solid earth with ease, burrow and walk through skyscrapers like they are a house of cards. Some icing on her skin would break apart as soon as she moved. This is like peanuts vs a city sized monster. Some insects with some powers would be like a a bee sting...Bobbys ice was broken apart from a hand grenade....
Regular bullets were able to pierce godzilla's skin. dontgetit
It's very clear that Godzilla didn't have some super thick hide or something, meaning that ice should be VERY effective against Godzilla.
At least in the shitty '99 remake, that is.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Regular bullets were able to pierce godzilla's skin. dontgetitIt's very clear that Godzilla didn't have some super thick hide or something, meaning that ice should be VERY effective against Godzilla.
At least in the shitty '99 remake, that is.
Yes she took damage, but it took so much to kill her from being swarmed by tanks, helicopters and jets. But we are talking about a few small people here with some powers. There likely to die right at the start of the fight, especially someone like Storm or Cyclops.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Taking off his visor doesn't turn Cyclops' optic blasts into heat vision and seeing as Bobby has zero feats to suggest that he can freeze Godzilla, GZ doesn't need feats of withstanding being frozen.
Um... Are we talking about the same person here? Because the Cyclops I'm talking about can instantly melt through concrete, and cut buildings in half on accident, when he takes off his visor.
And Bobby doesn't need to make a layer of ice big enough to completely trap GZ in ice. All he needs to do is blast a layer to coat most of GZ's skin, and GZ will be ridiculously debilitated. Lizards are cold blooded, meaning if he shot ice at her, she would immediately start freezing, especially if they were in an area that was already fairly cold, like NY. Don't forget that her hide was pierced by REGULAR BULLETS.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um... Are we talking about the same person here? Because the Cyclops I'm talking about can instantly melt through concrete, and cut buildings in half on accident, when he takes off his visor.And Bobby doesn't need to make a layer of ice big enough to completely trap GZ in ice. All he needs to do is blast a layer to coat most of GZ's skin, and GZ will be ridiculously debilitated. Lizards are cold blooded, meaning if he shot ice at her, she would immediately start freezing, especially if they were in an area that was already fairly cold, like NY. Don't forget that her hide was pierced by REGULAR BULLETS.
By regular bullets your mean tank shells, artillery, rockets from helo's and jets. Those are pretty uber. Things like those have affected people like Hulk, Thor, Superman and the other Kryptonians. Its not a low showing for her really.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes she took damage, but it took so much to kill her from being swarmed by tanks, helicopters and jets. But we are talking about a few small people here with some powers. There likely to die right at the start of the fight, especially someone like Storm or Cyclops.
The reason it took that much to kill her is because the bullets lacked the size to do anything serious to her. If someone could flick a grain of sand into your body, as fast as a bullet, fast enough for it to pierce your skin, and go into your body, you wouldn't even feel it, let alone be hurt by it. Unless it managed to hit your vital organs or something, which would still be impossible, given the fact that it wouldn't be fast enough to get past like an inch into your body.
And Cyclops can cut through buildings like butter, when he takes off his visor. What do you think that will do, when regular bullets could pierce her hide? His heat vision also has the range to be able to not just pierce her vitals, BUT LOP OF LIMBS. He would take off his visor, and one of her legs would be chopped off, lol.
Storm would blast her in the eyes with some lightning, and she'd be blind.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
By regular bullets your mean tank shells, artillery, rockets from helo's and jets. Those are pretty uber. Things like those have affected people like Hulk, Thor, Superman and the other Kryptonians. Its not a low showing for her really.
When have those things hurt Superman and Thor? In MOS, they managed to throw some of the kryptonians back, when they were caught off guard, but then they flew through them to get to the helicopters, like the bullets weren't even there.
And they even said that the bullets were piercing her, just not causing any real damage, because they were too small.
And from what I recall, she didn't get hit by more than one or two missiles. She dodged almost all of them, because every human is a friggin retard.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
When have those things hurt Superman and Thor? In MOS, they managed to throw some of the kryptonians back, when they were caught off guard, but then they flew through them to get to the helicopters, like the bullets weren't even there.And they even said that the bullets were piercing her, just not causing any real damage, because they were too small.
And from what I recall, she didn't get hit by more than one or two missiles. She dodged almost all of them, because every human is a friggin retard.
Hulk got trolled by the military a bunch in Hulk 2003 and 2009, and took a tank round and it injured him, as well as a bunch of other stuff. He healed up from it, but it still hurt him.
MoS didn't really get hit by much but his equals did, Namek took some anti tank rounds and knocked him down. Clearly they affected them.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Hulk got trolled by the military a bunch in Hulk 2003 and 2009, and took a tank round and it injured him, as well as a bunch of other stuff. He healed up from it, but it still hurt him.MoS didn't really get hit by much but his equals did, Namek took some anti tank rounds and knocked him down. Clearly they affected them.
Yeah, but that basically chocks up to PIS. If he was totally invincible, then the movie would be pointless. And it doesn't make much sense that that happened, when the Avengers version managed to tank things thousands of times worse.
Namek, lol. You mean Name-Ek. For a sec, I thought about DBZ. 😆
But that was when he was in the middle of a fight, and was caught off guard. After that, he flew THROUGH the stream of bullets to reach the chopper.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Um... In Origins, did Cyclops NOT cut his high school in half with his heat vision? 😉
Well, apparently the majority of that film is written out of continuity (though bits of the one Creed/Logan fight was shown in Logan's memories in DoFP, so Creed still seems to be his brother canonically in the movieverse). Plus, his showings in 3 X-men movies are concussive blasts with absolutely zero heat outpit. Gavin Hood is just an idiot who f**** it up for Origins.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, he didn't; mainly because Cyclops doesn't have heat vision. his optic blasts are concussive force, IE kinetic energy.
Origins Scott's blasts produced both force and heat but, like I said, it totally contradicts all his other movie showings.
Originally posted by KingD19
There's no heat, but if you have all that force rubbing up against the remains of whatever's left, friction could cause the heat.
Wasn't portrayed like that at all in any of the other movies though. Anyways, even with the weird portrayal in Origins, the current canonical status of that film is up for debate, and all his other consistent showings are pure kinetic force, so I don't consider his powers to be any kind of heat vision anyway.
And Iceman has nowhere near the feats to suggest he can freeze something as large or strong as Godzilla. He would get crushed while still trying to ice Zilla's foot.