DD seems to get hit and hurt a lot more easily than The Transporter though. Plus he doesn't seem to have the same knockout power.
DD with his billy club should win against Bane. Without it... then it's tough to call. Bane is slow and should have a hard time hitting DD. On the other hand, DD isn't so fast that he can't get hit, and it takes him quite a while before he gets to KO the average thug.
Originally posted by ares834
He did so in the best fight in the whole series.Comparatively, Batman takes on like a dozen thugs and defeats them in under 30 seconds.
That's probably his lowest showing in terms of actually struggling with fodder, and he was still in very bad shape at the time. Where as that clip of Bats is one of his highest end showings (and Matt has cleared groups of armed guys with ease before too, so not the best example).
So you're using one lower showing and exaggerating it into a statement about his general performance (when he has several that contradict this), while ignoring his other superior feats, which are on par to Batman's high showings. Yet at the same time, using high end prime Batman feats to argue for Bane (not even the version Bane encountered).
Honestly, it's no better than someone supporting Daredevil by saying that Matt wins, because he beat a number of skilled opponents, and Batman had trouble with the Joker and a pair of dogs. It's lowballing and not the way to debate characters fairly. If we are using consistent and high end showings for one, we have to do the same for the other one.
Originally posted by Quincy
Relax.Daredevil - when fighting these thugs - gets punched. He gets kicked. He gets beat up.
He wins, sure. No one is arguing that he wins fights against the thugs. But he gets injured. And it takes a toll on him.
None of the thugs that punch Daredevil have the strength to destroy cement.
So...if a trained Assassin Mercenary Ninja who has the strength to punch through cement punches him...that's...that's a tough thing to come back from.
As well, let's say DD utilizes the dark. It doesn't help considering Bane can see in the dark...
You clearly missed the point of my post. Using low end showings for one person while using high end showings for another is not being objective. And no, he might take a couple of blows here or there, and some might provide minor resistance, when fighting just random thugs, but he virtually always comes out on top, very little the worse for wear. It's his fights with guys like Nobu, Stick, Healy etc. where he generally takes noticeable damage and needs some medical attention. And these guys are not just random thugs, no matter how many times people try and repeat it.
Not to mention ALL of those showings except his final fight with Fisk is without the armour I allowed in this match. So remember to take the added protection and durability it would afford him into consideration as well.
Also, with Matt's senses he will definitely be able to pick up Bane's breathing problems. Fisk might not have made a dent in a pillar, but he is also extremely strong, and can casually toss someone like Daredevil the width of an alleyway. The guy can hear bones shifting inside someone's body and could even tell when Foggy was about to speak by subtle changes in his breathing pattern. So he would definitely take round 1 IMO.
Originally posted by ares834
That's really the only time we see DD take on a group of goons in a straight up fight like that. Batman, however, consistently does it with ease. Like when he takes down half a dozen or so men after his return in TDKR.Hell, Batman has a far easier time taking on those four LoS Ninjas in Begins.
To be fair, in majority of DD's fights he's almost always in constant injury. So he's not exactly tip top shape.
DD wins
He was strong enough to outright throw Kingpin during their final fight, fast and agile enough to dodge gunfire, durable enough to beat down numerous guys while suffering massive injuries, has the speed, agility, and stamina to keep up with a car using parkour, took on and survived his fight with Nobu, who shown way better combat skills than Bane ever has, and has enhanced senses which will immediately allow him to pinpoint Bane's breathing problem. Bane being "born and raised in the darkness" doesn't have shit on Matt's adaptation to his blindness.
Originally posted by Lestov16/thread
DD winsHe was strong enough to outright throw Kingpin during their final fight, fast and agile enough to dodge gunfire, durable enough to beat down numerous guys while suffering massive injuries, has the speed, agility, and stamina to keep up with a car using parkour, took on and survived his fight with Nobu, who shown way better combat skills than Bane ever has, and has enhanced senses which will immediately allow him to pinpoint Bane's breathing problem. Bane being "born and raised in the darkness" doesn't have shit on Matt's adaptation to his blindness.
Well said.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Sounds like this show is worth watching, Ill give it a go tonight.
Probably the best content the MCU (and possibly Netflix) has produced. I got 3 hours of sleep binge-watching the whole season and I only started the pilot out of boredom.
Originally posted by Golgo13
Bane.
No.