Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66Normal battle being like a 'normal' mindset, like, determined and focused. Bloodlusted is like when Dooku betrayed Ventress -- completely pissed and filled with rage. That's what I had in mind.
Joker, what do you mean by blood lusted? Usually it means no holding back, out for the kill, which is the mindset I always assume the character to be in unless said otherwise.Maybe the better question is, what do you mean by normal battle?
Originally posted by AncientPower
Meetra does not lack Force feats, we know what her powers are and they are better than anything Leneer or Ventress has displayed, Ventress can TK her all she likes but Surik can cut her off from the Force.Meetra was a symptom of Malachor V and only felt sick on the planet whereas according to the lore almost every other single Jedi immediately turned to the Dark Side. Evidently Surik does not display any signs of her symptom after that point, I would say much as she was immune to Nihilus and Traya's Force Drain variant, she was also largely resistant to Malachor's effects.
No she asks a Mandalorian how to fly a ship despite being an ace pilot with near a decade's experience, Corran Horn is another good one.
Huh? I'm pretty sure she's never performed a Force feat on Leneer and Ventress' level. Force Sever isn't a feat, thats a technique. Which I doubt will work on someone as powerful as Ventress considering Surik has no feats with willingly using it. Not that I'm arguing with you, your comment was just confusing.
Which doesn't matter with regards to the Sith on the planet? Traya was pretty explicitly tapping deeply into Malachor and obviously they'd have no problems resisting the darkside after being turned, lol. They'd probably get their jollies from hearing all the screams of the deceased tbh.
Oh man, so dumb. Travis was such a dipshit.
She can analyse a group of mercenaries and kill a mercenary with the kinetic force of her telekinesis in half a second. She maintained stamina through the Force to trash the most elite Sith in the Triumvirate on Malachor whilst physically sick. Resisting Nathema's attempts to rip her apart for so long is yet more evidence that she has extreme showings in Force assisted physical ability, which neither of her opponents here have compared to.
This is a bloodlusted battle and the entire point is that they hold nothing back, a Sever Force attack is certainly plausible against the less powerful Ventress.
She can defeat multiple Imperial Guardsmen, whom were in direct contact with Vitiate making them immune to Revan's own Force power through pure saber skill in a portion of a battle that wasn't a minute long.
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Normal battle being like a 'normal' mindset, like, determined and focused. Bloodlusted is like when Dooku betrayed Ventress -- completely pissed and filled with rage. That's what I had in mind.
That's what I thought you meant, but then I wasn't sure considering she nearly choked out both Kenobi and Skywalker at the same time despite their efforts to break free, which is pretty much over the top and beyond these two. Of course, considering they would be in a similar rage, whereas Anakin and Kenobi were not, I doubt she'd do the same to these two. However, even considering Skywalker's and Kenobi's own feats under normal circumstances, I'm not sure the other two would be capable of overpowering them the way Ventress did or even close, so I'd give this to Ventress for sure.
Leneer did briefly hold her own against a rage filled Malgus, but wasn't she also fighting with rage at the time?
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66👆
That's what I thought you meant, but then I wasn't sure considering she nearly choked out both Kenobi and Skywalker at the same time despite their efforts to break free, which is pretty much over the top and beyond these two. Of course, considering they would be in a similar rage, whereas Anakin and Kenobi were not, I doubt she'd do the same to these two. However, even considering Skywalker's and Kenobi's own feats under normal circumstances, I'm not sure the other two would be capable of overpowering them the way Ventress did or even close, so I'd give this to Ventress for sure.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66I believe so.
Leneer did briefly hold her own against a rage filled Malgus, but wasn't she also fighting with rage at the time?
It is stated Vima Sunrider taught her to master her natural affinity for the technique so as to control it because of how dangerous she was, she definitely knows how to weild it willingly. In a bloodlusted battle Meetra could certainly cut her opponents off from the Force, perhaps even drain them.
@DMB, it was a mix of both.
I'm thinking Metra wins round 1, if it's KoTOR incarnate, but Revan I'm thinking maybe Ventress(?)
For round 2 it definitely comes down to either Ventress or Leneer. I'm thinking maybe Leneer if she can draw on the emotions she felt when her master got killed, then she is the definite winner, plus she's a Force Empath so she can draw on her feelings from that more than most can from a similar experience.