Is Revan an Ancient Sith/Jedi?

Started by Jmanghan2 pages

Is Revan an Ancient Sith/Jedi?

He's not one of THE ancient sith, but he should be AN ancient sith

He existed 4,000 years before the events of TPM.

Exar Kun was an Ancient Sith apparently, and he was only 40 years prior.

Revan's accomplishments also overshadow Kun's by a country mile.

Exar Kun was the most powerful Sith Lord of his day and has the feats to prove it, Revan is an Ancient indeed, but Kun has the statements to be placed over him.

Revan >>>>>> Kun in power and accomplishments.

Revan ascended to become greater than the dark side incarnate, which was EMperor Vitiate. The Emperor feared Revan so much that he only entered real space once Revan had allowed himself to die so he could become One again.

Revan is not Ancient Jedi/Sith, Revan is the first of all Jedi and Sith.

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Nova, I'm afraid you'll be getting used to this.

Kun isn't on Revan's level.

If I'm actually going to take this thread seriously then they are very comparable, they are both above Vader tier but not Plagueis/Caedus tier.

I'm starting to think they are much more comparable than I once did. In that I'm putting Revan steadily higher.

But then I'm still somewhat stuck in the mindset of Kun rivaling Sidious from way back in the day when Janus posted more.

Revan > Kun, lol.

Revan is on level with Krayt and Caedus and Nomi Sunrider.

amiright Ancient Power?

Well not if Kun really is stronger than Hord, Sadow, Ragnos, Nadd and junk. Also he has great feats of his own.

Considering Revan is stronger than Nihilus, the people you listed are irrelevant. 😉

Kun's only feats that really imply comparison to Revan is his ghost feats - and that was with the power of the entire Massassi race.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Considering Revan is stronger than Nihilus, the people you listed are irrelevant. 😉

Kun's only feats that really imply comparison to Revan is his ghost feats - and that was with the power of the entire Massassi race.

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What about tanking bombing runs? Or blowing up that temple wall which apparently was tougher than I thought? Or freezing the senate?

He's also a better duelist and much stronger physically.

Aren't the first two feats you listed ghost feats? If the second feat was when Kun went into ultra-rage mode, then there is your answer. 👆
For the final, Kun's freezing of the senate, which was most likely prepared before amp, had no effect on any of the Jedi present. Pretty lame.

No.

Originally posted by SunRazer
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You may want to ignore that one they are...... unique in their views.

Ancient is a line that varies depending on when you're talking about.

Sometimes it refers to just old-Empire sith, sometimes any very old sith... which, yea, includes Revan, Kun, Kreia, and heck, arguably TOR sith.

By the time of the clone wars, Bane's fairly ancient...

Darth Bane and Yoda are regarded as ancient Force-users during the era of Anakin Skywalker.

The label "ancient" is absolutely valid for any being thousands of years old.

Revan being above Nihilus is the product of somebody not doing their research though, whereas multiple sources confirm Kun's superior power to the ancient Sith, including the writer of Sadow, Kun and Ragnos himself. That being said, SOR seems to have retconned them to an even standing, but regardless, Avellone himself thinks the ancient Sith > Nihilus as well.

Nihilus would be below Malak if it wasn't for his overpowered force drain.

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Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Aren't the first two feats you listed ghost feats? If the second feat was when Kun went into ultra-rage mode, then there is your answer. 👆
For the final, Kun's freezing of the senate, which was most likely prepared before amp, had no effect on any of the Jedi present. Pretty lame.

No.

It involved Sadow's amulet, but Galaxy Guide 14 states clearly that the Jedi Council were powerless to stop Kun. I mean, if you involve accolades, then he's more powerful than the ancient Sith, which means Revan isn't more powerful than him (or at least not as decisively as you're making it out to be). SOR does seem to have retconned Kun and the ancient Sith to equals (as spirits), but Kun's still pretty powerful in life.