Revan (Shadow of Revan) vs Revan (SWTOR: Revan - novel)

Originally posted by Kosmos Supreme
Um... what

How?

No, were do you get that unrelated conclusion.
SoR specificly stated he wasn't as strong as Vitiate. and he happened to outclass those people who you mentioned.

Malgus was winning until Jace Malcolm caught him of guard. also Malgus got a jump-start by killing elenna daru and becoming one with the force (without dying)

What are you even taking about? 😕

BTW comparing Novel Revan to Malgus is silly as Vitiate would have killed Malgus easily.

Furthermore how would being drained, and tortured for 300 years strengthen him.

Also, you come on KMC, a forum, and expect not to get insulted or called out?

Then, you threaten me, with the intention of scaring me, which obviously won't work.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
[B]So, Satele and Nox, as well as a few others, get shit-stomped by Vitiate?

Because, if I remember correctly, Satele alone was a powerhouse above Revan before the events of SOR.

By that Logic, Revan would be above Vitiate.

H.O.T. defeated a weakened Vitiate, and H.O.T. is barely above Nox in power, so, Full-Power Revan is above Vitiate, right? According to your logic.

Satele destroyed landscapes with her TK, and she grew incredibly in power after that.

Also, she defeated Malgus, and it's never implied or stated anywhere that Malgus had surpassed her. ON TOP of that, we also have the fact, that it took the Strike Team to take down Malgus, AFTER they had already taken down Revan.

Malgus =/< Satele.

Revan tosses them aside with only half his power?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
And he also could've killed Revan just as easily, it took him and the Exile to last as long as they did, toward's his death, Malgus would performed better. I was responding to FreshestSlice, read his argument.

Also, you come on KMC, a forum, and expect not to get insulted or called out?

Then, you threaten me, with the intention of scaring me, which obviously won't work.

you don't even understand a Star Wars reference in a Star Wars forum. she-ssh

Originally posted by Kosmos Supreme
Foundry Revan was not that strong. He was defeated my the class-protagonists in mid game, while SoR Revan had endgame class-protagonists, Darth Marr, Satele, Lana Beniko, Theron Shan, Kakkaro, and Shae Vizsla working against him.

Foundry Revan was the prime version of unified Revan, Dark Revan is only one half of him and lacks Spirit Revan's wisdom and clarity. Seriously just ask Ant.

I doubt many know more than Ant about Revan, but that's not exactly a stellar argument. Besides, I've seen him say Novel Revan is superior before.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Yes. Vitiate is kind of a powerhouse in the setting, in case you haven't noticed.

Lol.

😬

Stop, you're giving me cancer.

And a random Jedi Knight can drop a building.

Dear sweet Jesus, Lord Almighty, in heaven, what the **** are you talking about?

Yes. Talking about how I need to play the game. I just had an aneurysm reading this.

Yet, now using half his power, Revan can treat some of the strongest figures in TOR era like little bitches.

Revan was defeated by the strike team before Malgus was, and Malgus put up seemingly a better fight.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I doubt many know more than Ant about Revan, but that's not exactly a stellar argument. Besides, I've seen him say Novel Revan is superior before.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
I doubt many know more than Ant about Revan, but that's not exactly a stellar argument. Besides, I've seen him say Novel Revan is superior before.

Foundry Revan was recovered from his centuries long incarceration whereas novel Revan was still recovering from years of drugging by Nyriss. Furthermore Foundry Revan learnt a shit ton in his mental war against Vitiate and the Dread Masters before being released. How is Novel Revan > Foundry Revan.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Foundry Revan was recovered from his centuries long incarceration whereas novel Revan was still recovering from years of drugging by Nyriss. Furthermore Foundry Revan learnt a shit ton in his mental war against Vitiate and the Dread Masters before being released. How is Novel Revan > Foundry Revan.

Jedi take that as a learning experience.

They become stronger after learning more secrets, and delving into the mind of much stronger opponents.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
[B]You're missing the point, Vitiate stomped both Meetra and Revan at the SAME TIME.

Yet, now using half his power, Revan can treat some of the strongest figures in TOR era like little bitches.

Revan was defeated by the strike team before Malgus was, and Malgus put up seemingly a better fight.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Quotes are everything, dude. If you can vouch that he said that, then prove it.

Originally posted by AncientPower
Foundry Revan was recovered from his centuries long incarceration whereas novel Revan was still recovering from years of drugging by Nyriss. Furthermore Foundry Revan learnt a shit ton in his mental war against Vitiate and the Dread Masters before being released. How is Novel Revan > Foundry Revan.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That's because compared to him, they were nothing. Just like compared to Revan, that team was almost nothing.

And?

Completely opinionated and completely irrelevant. Revan just came out of stasis a few days-weeks prior after being slowly drained for 300 years. He's not going to be in top shape. Him over two years later, even if at half power, while being amped, is a completely different beast. None of it, however, has any bearing on novel Revan.

I will always think that H.O.T. is just barely above Nox, because he is, maybe you see it differently, but, based on what Nox has done, he is just barely below H.O.T.

Revan would've done the same thing to the H.O.T. if he wanted to, with Satele, and Marr, and the others as well.

TK'ing all of them is a HUGE feat.

It is NOT opinionated, Malgus is fought afterwards, and the entire team has grown largely since they last fought, with Revan being fought mid-game, while Malgus needs level 50's on his ass.

Reading through people discussing Revan is painful.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
[B]Revan 3.0 is not that much below Vitiate, if that were true, then H.O.T. would never ever have been able to beat him.

I will always think that H.O.T. is just barely above Nox, because he is, maybe you see it differently, but, based on what Nox has done, he is just barely below H.O.T.

Revan would've done the same thing to the H.O.T. if he wanted to, with Satele, and Marr, and the others as well.

TK'ing all of them is a HUGE feat.

It is NOT opinionated, Malgus is fought afterwards, and the entire team has grown largely since they last fought, with Revan being fought mid-game, while Malgus needs level 50's on his ass.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The **** does this even mean? Vitiate was incredibly weakened. It's not like he just got a papercut and had to use a bandaid.

Relevance?

Uh, Revan did. It's not like Nox is canonically the only one that fought in that Operation. All of the protags could.

And? Revan could have done that 300 years ago. The fact that he did it while weakened is proof enough of that.

Do you know what gameplay/story segregation is?

So, Vitiate was weakened FAR FARRRR past Revan during his fight with the H.O.T.?

Because, at Full-Power, Revan, and Meetra were both stomped by Vitiate.

Yet, later on he ragdolls them with almost no effort.

Vitiate would have to have been weakened beyond comprehension to be weaker then the H.O.T. in that scenario.

Malgus was defeated later. He put up a better fight then Revan, and even during the Revan fight, they had already fought HK.

Malgus smacks the strike team like bitches with TK while Revan disappears into a white mist.

Is there anything that makes SOR Revan's opinion about himself inaccurate?

Bt the most genious of all is Darth Revan, the emperor of the star forge empire, he have a better control of himself, know himself better, have a complex and solid mindset that is very usefull against other force user, have a better Knowledge of the force, posses a perfect control of his powers, where Sidious go berserk, Yoda need to focus, and Plagueis is just a scientistthat still have some difficulties with pratic, Revan is like Bane he can apply the pratic based on the theory with perfection, have a lot more of expêrience, and raw power.
+He have also multiples feats of pure raw power. And is the ebst strategist here.

Where novel Revan and foundry Revan still host KotOR revan in their mind, a guy created by the council with no personality what so ever !!! This Revan do not Recover his full memory never, and the Light side part of "him" (to me this false Revan act like a parasite) trick him into thinking that he did was wrong.... And make him think like a Dumb whiny Jedi council *******... The kind of Jedi who say Ho obiwan your kinda great but there is no master that want to train you.. Let's train Trebord instead and put him on the council...

Revan 3.0 Is plit into a Jedi *******, and a pupet controlled by vitiate himself.

So YHEA DARK REVAN IS THE BEST OF ALL.

Originally posted by Revanchiste
Bt the most genious of all is Darth Revan, the emperor of the star forge empire, he have a better control of himself, know himself better, have a complex and solid mindset that is very usefull against other force user, have a better Knowledge of the force, posses a perfect control of his powers, where Sidious go berserk, Yoda need to focus, and Plagueis is just a scientistthat still have some difficulties with pratic, Revan is like Bane he can apply the pratic based on the theory with perfection, have a lot more of expêrience, and raw power.
+He have also multiples feats of pure raw power. And is the ebst strategist here.

Where novel Revan and foundry Revan still host KotOR revan in their mind, a guy created by the council with no personality what so ever !!! This Revan do not Recover his full memory never, and the Light side part of "him" (to me this false Revan act like a parasite) trick him into thinking that he did was wrong.... And make him think like a Dumb whiny Jedi council *******... The kind of Jedi who say Ho obiwan your kinda great but there is no master that want to train you.. Let's train Trebord instead and put him on the council...

Revan 3.0 Is plit into a Jedi *******, and a pupet controlled by vitiate himself.

So YHEA DARK REVAN IS THE BEST OF ALL.