Rank Grant Morrison's Metatextual Beings

Started by Galan0072 pages

Originally posted by leonidas
of course, on the other side, it seems dc is getting RID of all the alternates. i find the timing of publication between convergence and multiversity....odd. both are HUGE events, but is it me, or do they seem utterly and diametrically opposed....? 😕 guess we'll need to wait ans see. and maybe hope...?
Supposedly they'll link-up. I'm not very convinced of that yet, though.

This thread is a Prep-man wet dream

Until now, from what I've seen, it is:

Dax Novu/Thought Robot
Empty Hand
Gentry
Ultra Comics

Remeber that Dax Novu is/was, by far, the most powerful son/probe of God/Source/Primal Monitor/Overvoid (whatever you want to call it).
Still, there is obviously more to come so things may change.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Empty Hand
Thought-Robot/Mandrakk/The Gentry
Ultra
Originally posted by Galan007
Anyway, I REALLY wish we would have seen more of Quantum Supes. That guy is ungodly powerful(perhaps even moreso than The Gentry themselves)

If you think that Quantum Superman, albeit he obviously is very powerful, could somehow pose a threat to The Gentry, how can you put the latter on par with the likes of Dax Novu/CA?
In FC QS served only as a "medium" for the matter-antimatter fusion, for the rest, compared to Dax Novu, he was way out of his league.

The Gentry were also weaker in some universes it seemed, that might explain why they went down easy.

Assuming, of course, that TEH just didn't let them lose.

Originally posted by Galan007
The Empty Hand
Thought-Robot/Mandrakk/The Gentry
Ultra

Admittedly I haven't read the series, but the fact that herald level superheroes can even combat The Gentry makes me think they shouldn't even be counted in the same breath as Mandrakk and CAS

All I know is, the character design and art on Empty Hand is awesome.

👆

Originally posted by psycho gundam
This thread is a Prep-man wet dream

Gushing..

Originally posted by zopzop
All I know is, the character design and art on Empty Hand is awesome.

A naked, horny man?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
A naked, horny man?

That has horns.

HORNSSSS.

Originally posted by Sj_Sharp
If you think that Quantum Superman, albeit he obviously is very powerful, could somehow pose a threat to The Gentry, how can you put the latter on par with the likes of Dax Novu/CA?
In FC QS served only as a "medium" for the matter-antimatter fusion, for the rest, compared to Dax Novu, he was way out of his league.
QS also said that he was the endgame of the IDEA that spawned the likes of Superman and Ultraman... And even at a base level, the idea/story of Superman and Ultraman was ultimately enough to overcome Mandrakk, when placed in a higher-dimensional receiver(Thought-Robot.) QS is basically the hyper-evolved version of that idea/story--that's why he was "beyond conflict" all together. That said, we simply do not know if he was out of his league, as he didn't care to fight one way or the other... But I digress.

Either way(because I really don't care about this argument), I said "perhaps" in the post you quoted. Perhaps=/=certainty. So yeah...

should be an optional dictionary button beneath posts. i've had to do some clarifying recently too. mmm

Originally posted by Galan007
QS also said that he was the endgame of the IDEA that spawned the likes of Superman and Ultraman... And even at a base level, the idea/story of Superman and Ultraman was ultimately enough to overcome Mandrakk, when placed in a higher-dimensional receiver(Thought-Robot.)

Either way(because I really don't care about this argument), I said "perhaps" in the post you quoted. Perhaps=/=certainty. So yeah...

You said it yourself thoug: "when place in a higher-dimensional receiver": it was the Thought Robot which let Superman even comprehend what Dax Novu was, without it Superman would have been totally useless.
QS thus may be an end-game Superman-type character (and he surely is, since he seemed way beyond the likes of Superman and Ultraman), but indirectly putting him on such high-end level (through your comparison QS-Gentry-Mandrakk) it's stretching his place in the story arc beyond belief, as far as I'm concerned.
If anything, it would be interesting to discuss if QS elevated in the TR could make the latter even more powerful, considering that he rightly is a kind of "evolution" of the concept of Superman.

As for the second part: come on, don't get so attached to semantics like that: nobody here is assuming all of this as a certainty; you were the first to bring out what it looked like a personal belief and I simply replied with my own question.
But since you don't care, I'll leave just here.

You've taking everything I've said grossly out of context, lol. We're done here. 👆

Ok, now it's more clear, it sounded strange indeed.
My apologies.