Originally posted by carver9
I would give Hulk the edge against either of the two and I would give Thor and Hyperion the majority against Gladiator. I'm giving this to team 1...especially after looking at the squad the Avengers recently put together to fight Hulk alone. That speaks volumes imo.
This team??
Yeah, that's a nothing team. Thor is the only heavy hitter there. Stop jizzing.
Originally posted by carver9
Even though we've seen Ironman hang with top tiers and Vision in his own right being powerful, that team isn't solid? She Hulk isn't something tk be laughed at either.
Hulk has defeated Iron Man when he's wearing a suit specifically designed to fight him - and lost. This IM therefore would be a weaker version than in the Hulkbusters, no?
She-Hulk....the weaker version of Hulk? OK.
Vision? How did their last fight go?
So you've got a team of people who have all lost against Hulk...going up against Hulk. And you think its some kinda feat?
Hell, we can even use the tiering system we have here on KMC:
IM: Low Herald
She-Hulk: High Meta
Vision: High Meta
IW: High Meta.
Yeah, forgive me for not thinking it all that impressive. Sure, bring out all the high end feats of Vision/IM/She-Hulk you want. I'll bring out the high end feats of Hulk.
That team, with the exception of Thor, is a fodder team.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk has defeated Iron Man when he's wearing a suit specifically designed to fight him - and lost. This IM therefore would be a weaker version than in the Hulkbusters, no?She-Hulk....the weaker version of Hulk? OK.
Vision? How did their last fight go?
So you've got a team of people who have all lost against Hulk...going up against Hulk. And you think its some kinda feat?
Hell, we can even use the tiering system we have here on KMC:
IM: Low Herald
She-Hulk: High Meta
Vision: High Meta
IW: High Meta.Yeah, forgive me for not thinking it all that impressive. Sure, bring out all the high end feats of Vision/IM/She-Hulk you want. I'll bring out the high end feats of Hulk.
That team, with the exception of Thor, is a fodder team.
Agreed on some occasion. I wouldnt call Ironman or Vision fodder based off their showings but your argument is solid. I see it as something different though. Don't think Ironman thinks a single Herald could hold Hulk off. Well, that's what I got from it. Sue is hellava impressive as well.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
He became worthy just as he charged at the Beyonders with Hyperion.
So what happened to Whor? They hype this up as she's the permanent "true" Thor and do that after a few months? Not that I bought it was truly forever, but I thought it'd last a bit longer than that, if it is the case.
Originally posted by Delta1938
So what happened to Whor? They hype this up as she's the permanent "true" Thor and do that after a few months? Not that I bought it was truly forever, but I thought it'd last a bit longer than that, if it is the case.
Oh she still has Mjolnir and everything. And is going to be around for a long time throughout Secret Wars etc.
Originally posted by Delta1938
So he became worthy again, but doesn't have Mjolnir? Does he have anything else, or would this be weaponless Thor?
Yes. He has an unworthy Mjlonir called Thorr (I think that's the name of it). He was unable to lift it when facing the Beyonders because he became worthy again. He still doesn't have Mjlonir though but his previous hammer seemed just as powerful (even though he doesn't have it anymore).
Originally posted by Delta1938
So he became worthy again, but doesn't have Mjolnir? Does he have anything else, or would this be weaponless Thor?
In another world there is a hammer of Thorr. And you can only wield it if you are unworthy.
Just as he went into combat with the Beyonders he tried to pick it up and he couldn't.
Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Thor doesn't have his hammer here? If not, team 1 stomps.
Yea, because we've seen how useless unworthy Thor is. 😬
That axe and focus on him using weather powers on his own more make up for losing Mjolnir. Obviously nothing can replace that OP hammer when push comes to shove but whatever.
I know it must vex you but it's the truth bro.
