Elitist Hollywood
reading an article on how Hollywood blames Comic Book Movies for the downfall of Hollywood, Alejandro Inarrtu saying that superhero films are "cultural genocide" these elitist make me sick, as if "independent cinema" is so much better in terms of quality; what an arrogant and close minded viewpoint, if it wasn't for CBMs cinema would be at an all time low as far as box office is concerned, I think these old ****s need to thank disney, WB and fox for keeping this medium alive.
They're a means to an end for some directors. Nolan knew doing the Batman movies would rake in a ton of cash and give him leeway to make big budget yet experimental movies like Inception and Interstellar.
As for his criticism it's kind of irrelevant. Movies are like food. Sometimes you want to consume fancy food at an independent restaurant and sometimes you want some mass produced junk food. So long as people enjoy both there's a market for both.
Re: Elitist Hollywood
Originally posted by relentless1
reading an article on how Hollywood blames Comic Book Movies for the downfall of Hollywood, Alejandro Inarrtu saying that superhero films are "cultural genocide" these elitist make me sick, as if "independent cinema" is so much better in terms of quality; what an arrogant and close minded viewpoint, if it wasn't for CBMs cinema would be at an all time low as far as box office is concerned, I think these old ****s need to thank disney, WB and fox for keeping this medium alive.
Ugh, cultural genocide, really?
There's nothing wrong with independent cinema, however there's *also* nothing wrong with wanting a well-crafted high budget movie where heroes save the day.
jaden101
As for his criticism it's kind of irrelevant. Movies are like food. Sometimes you want to consume fancy food at an independent restaurant and sometimes you want some mass produced junk food. So long as people enjoy both there's a market for both.
Well-said.
Originally posted by jaden101
As for his criticism it's kind of irrelevant. Movies are like food. Sometimes you want to consume fancy food at an independent restaurant and sometimes you want some mass produced junk food. So long as people enjoy both there's a market for both.
I was about to post something about hipsters expecting everything to be some artsy low budget indie sundance film for it to even be considered "Fine Cinema" etc, etc but this sums it up quite nice.
Originally posted by jaden101
As for his criticism it's kind of irrelevant. Movies are like food. Sometimes you want to consume fancy food at an independent restaurant and sometimes you want some mass produced junk food. So long as people enjoy both there's a market for both.
honestly, i don't feel that independent films are "fancy food" at all, why? because its deep and difficult to keep up with at first glance? the acting is so superb or the cinematography is so sublime?? I don't buy that at all I think all movies are judged by the same merits and either they are good or they aren't.
Like any artform there are going to be some who look down on the seemingly more lowbrow genres. BUT just because something is entertaining with a large budget doesn't mean it isn't necessarily artful and the opposite is true, too: just because something is Independently made doesn't automatically mean it IS artful.
If the superhero plans were to succeed it would mean that mid budget movies would be almost completely gone and all the money would be thrown into these giant movies.
]I like my action movies, giant historical dramas/adventures, sci fi epics, war movies and so on. Also i am sure smaller movies will get less and less money if these giants succeed.
Originally posted by Shey Tapani
If the superhero plans were to succeed it would mean that mid budget movies would be almost completely gone and all the money would be thrown into these giant movies.]I like my action movies, giant historical dramas/adventures, sci fi epics, war movies and so on. Also i am sure smaller movies will get less and less money if these giants succeed.
They are succeeding though. And what plans are you talking about?
I think there is room for all types of genes. Just cause you have one doesn't mean you cant have the others.
The biggest problem I see is too many studios jump on the band wagon of whats popular or any surprise hit that so happened to make alot of money.
Then they over-saturate the market with the same type of movies, trying to cash in.
If a movie came out next year about robot dolphins and it turned out to be a massive box office success you can sure as hell bet other studios would come out with similar type movies in the coming months/years. Over-saturating the market.
You'll have robot whales, robot walruses, etc.
An asteroid movie comes out and makes money, 3 more asteroid/comet type movies come out.
A Zombie movie is successful, then 5 more zombie type movies comes out in no time.
Now they are doing this with super hero movies. Everyone wants to jump on the bandwagon. Speeding up the process of people eventually getting sick of them.
That is what fuqs everything up imo.
Originally posted by Inhuman
They are succeeding though. And what plans are you talking about?
I think there is room for all types of genes. Just cause you have one doesn't mean you cant have the others.
Less people trying x type of movies means less great movies in other genres.
I am talking the future plans that would make every blockbuster into a superhero movie. Based on the plans they think they can own all blockbusters.
http://geekologie.com/2014/10/20/superhero-movie-timeline.jpg
They are all the major studios that have superhero properties.
Originally posted by Shey Tapani
http://geekologie.com/2014/10/20/superhero-movie-timeline.jpgThey are all the major studios that have superhero properties.
You said "every" blockbuster. Just cause they are releasing those movies doesn't mean their wont be any other type of blockbusters.
Right now everyone wants to jump on the super hero bandwagon. This has been going on for a few years now.
We still have other blockbusters like, Jurassic world, mad max, tomorrowland, star wars, etc.
You can still go see some small indie flick if you must. They are not going extinct anytime soon.
Originally posted by Inhuman
You said "every" blockbuster. Just cause they are releasing those movies doesn't mean their wont be any other type of blockbusters.
Right now everyone wants to jump on the super hero bandwagon. This has been going on for a few years now.
We still have other blockbusters like, Jurassic world, mad max, tomorrowland, star wars, etc.
You can still go see some small indie flick if you must. They are not going extinct anytime soon.
Mid budget movies becoming extinct is a big deal for me. I don't just want to watch very cheaply made movies about people in existential crisis. Also almost ever blockbuster being a superhero movie would be pretty bad and boring.
I hate when people assume that "indie films" are somehow better or automatically "more artful". There is also no genocide being caused. The super hero movies being incredibly popular seems like logical progression. A lot of people at one point or another in their life want to be super heroes, even if it is just as kids.
Technology has now made super hero movies able to be made. True, we had them before, but now they can truly be the big spectacles they deserve to be. I view it like video games. As the technology for games became better and better..it became more and more main stream.
People also make the mistake of thinking of a super hero movie is just going to be mindless action. Yet a movie like "The Dark Knight" has all that, but it also makes you think. It makes you think about the nature of people, and of good and evil.
If anything will spell the downfall of Hollywood it will be the constant remakes of movies that didn't really need to be remade in the first place. Actually, the downfall of Hollywood won't come because of any specific genre of movie. It will come because of the way people in charge run it.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
I do agree though that a lot of people never see good films, and that is a shame.
But what makes a movie good is subjective.
Originally posted by Tzeentch
What is a "mid budget movie"? In what world are superhero movies owning the monopoly on blockbuster films? In the past two years only a handful of comic book movies have been released among the dozens to hundreds of films that are put out annually.What are you talking about?
They plan to own all blockbusters. Mid budget, 40, 60, 70 million movies. You talking about the past i am looking at the future.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
Indie filmmakers are crying because their go-pro filmed movie that's just a C- student film isn't making a billion dollars.I support Indie films (Wes Anderson is my favorite director)
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I do agree though that a lot of people never see good films, and that is a shame.
They are crying because they cannot make bigger movies despite their track record. In a world where Lincoln by Spielberg almost debuted on HBO, it's understandable that they are somewhat frustrated.
