Originally posted by Zack Fair
I think they got owned. The blast was large, and way more powerful than the smash Thor used to put that one down before Hulk decked him. Iron Man was not in the middle of explosion as Thor was. Also...so Tony was there what about it? Doesn't take away from Thor tanking that shit. Where do you get this estimate of Thor only doing 5%? Curious.
Makes sense. Ironman STANDARD armor withstood that island attack and Hulk ripped Ironman AMPED armor to shreds. Thanks for pointing that out for me.
Originally posted by carver9What context? That Tony designed a suit to take on Hulk? That Hulk was the most pissed off we have ever seen him(IMO) and yet he could not put Tony down even after the later kept pissing him off? That Tony used his versatility, brains and flight to fight Hulk in his terms?
So there wasn't any context involved?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
What context? That Tony designed a suit to take on Hulk? That Hulk was the most pissed off we have ever seen him(IMO) and yet he could not put Tony down even after the later kept pissing him off? That Tony used his versatility, brains and flight to fight Hulk in his terms?
And why couldn't he put Tony down? Because Tony was getting parts from the armor that was being destroyed during mid fight. He was healing himself. The fight would've been over with during the beginning.
What versatility helped him in that fight. The only thing that worked was the gas that he used on Hulk. His blasts were useless.
Originally posted by juggerman
That's just a lie. Thor wasn't pissed until the end of the fight.
WTF. He hit him with a lightning blast that charged his armor up to 400%. He tried to crush his arm. He tried to kill Cap. Stop being in denial. He was most Def bloodlusted. The guy tried to crush Ironman head when he was on the ground with a hammer swing.
Originally posted by carver9
Thor was going all out. Lol. He was most Def blood lusted.
Originally posted by carver9
WTF. He hit him with a lightning blast that charged his armor up to 400%. He tried to crush his arm. He tried to kill Cap. Stop being in denial. He was most Def bloodlusted. The guy tried to crush Ironman head when he was on the ground with a hammer swing.
I have 2 very honest question for you. Not a trick but I'm trying to guage your mindset here.
1. Do you believe Thor can go for the kill without going all out?
2. Do you believe Thor can kill without meaning to?
Originally posted by carver9Thor was mad, but not going all out. I don't see that lil bit of lightning as "going out for the kill" Tony was gradually pissing him off until Cap showed up, who happens to be the one that took a real all out going for the kill attack IMHO. Thor dent the armor with the headbutt. You can see it at the 3:14 mark YouTube video
Casually? The point is, THAT Ironman would've got destroyed in seconds by Hulk. Fact. The Thor that Ironman fought was a pissed out for kill Thor and Ironman still held his own. Fact.
Iron man would have been destroyed in seconds by the Hulk and yet he didn't. Funny how that works.
Originally posted by juggerman
I have 2 very honest question for you. Not a trick but I'm trying to guage your mindset here.1. Do you believe Thor can go for the kill without going all out?
2. Do you believe Thor can kill without meaning to?
Go for the kill without going all out? Hard question to answer since he hammer swing on Cap shield leveled the forest.
Kill without meaning? No.
Answer this. Would Thor try to kill someone that would tell him to put his hammer down? If not, what would cause him to try to kill someone who brought up something so simple?
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Thor was mad, but not going all out. I don't see that lil bit of lightning as "going out for the kill" Tony was gradually pissing him off until Cap showed up, who happens to be the one that took a real all out going for the kill attack IMHO. Thor dent the armor with the headbutt. You can see it at the 3:14 mark YouTube videoIron man would have been destroyed in seconds by the Hulk and yet he didn't. Funny how that works.
So you're saying Thor got bloodlusted after the Ironman fight due to Cap asking him to put his hammer down? Think about it.
Little lightning? It wad an ongoing attack that charged Tony suit to 475%. There's no proof that Thor held anything back and again, Hulk would've ripped that armor to shred in seconds, even if he wasn't bloodlusted.
Answer this. Was Tony going all out against Thor?
No. I'm saying Thor was becoming angrier the more Iron Man got in his way. Pretty similar to how Tony kept pissing off the Hulk. Now another earthling showed up and started bossing him around. I'm pretty sure he was completely fed off by then and simply wanted to end things. Which is why he slammed Tony out of the first for a few seconds and went all out on Cap(who happens to have that fancy shield to save his life)
Yes little lightning compared to the stuff Thor has shown when he is tasked to give it his all.
Thor would most likely be able to tear the armor to shreds if he wanted to. I think that was the entire point of the scene lol.