Originally posted by carver9
What scene are you talking about for Thor? Also, people need to look at rhe context of the Hulk and Ironman fight and I have as of yet to see Thor display strength on the level of the Hulkbuster armor. Let's be real here.
You really should read properly before you reply to something. I said striking power. Not strength. Thor's Jotunheim buster and his strike at the end of Avengers 2 come to mind. Both those > Hulk's best striking feat, in terms of raw, destructive power. His strike on Cap in Avengers 1 also leveled all the trees surrounding them and during the opening fight of Avengers 2, the casual charged strike he deflects off of Cap's shield wipes out dozens of soldiers and a tank. I am sure that if I went back to his other fights I could find more examples of striking power equal or greater than the Hulk's best showings.
Originally posted by carver9
Relook at the fight. Thor dodged Hulk ONCE. One time. Uno. That's it. A tornado isn't dropping Hulk and the Hulk that fought Ironman vs the Hulk that fought Thor are two different beasts. Thor hits is his main attack. Not his lightning. Not his tornado. His hammer is and that wasn't effective against Hulk at all.
So he didn't dodge the wing Hulk tossed at him now?
The Thor Hulk fought is not the normal fighting Thor.
You act as if lightning charged strikes are rare for him. Did you even see Avengers 2
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
You really should read properly before you reply to something. I said striking power. Not strength. Thor's Jotunheim buster and his strike at the end of Avengers 2 come to mind. Both those > Hulk's best striking feat, in terms of raw, destructive power. His strike on Cap in Avengers 1 also leveled all the trees surrounding them and during the opening fight of Avengers 2, the casual charged strike he deflects off of Cap's shield wipes out dozens of soldiers and a tank. I am sure that if I went back to his other fights I could find more examples of striking power equal or greater than the Hulk's best showings.
The Jot buster. Lol, look at that scene again. He didn't even use the hammer part for that scene. It was a blast. A b.l.a.s.t. Not a hit, nothing blunt about it.
The strike at the end of Avengers 2? On the machine? WTF. 😐 What was special about it?
So the strike on Cap shield was all Thor?
So again, the strike on Cap shield is all Thor? Think about it.
Originally posted by juggerman
So he didn't dodge the wing Hulk tossed at him now?The Thor Hulk fought is not the normal fighting Thor.
You act as if lightning charged strikes are rare for him. Did you even see Avengers 2
Did Hulk dodge Thor hammer toss?
That was a normal Thor from what I seen. You really haven't provided any evidence.
Who in Avengers did he drop with a lightning charge attack for you to believe he could take Hulk out? Refresh my memory.
Originally posted by carver9
Did Hulk dodge Thor hammer toss?That was a normal Thor from what I seen. You really haven't provided any evidence.
Who in Avengers did he drop with a lightning charge attack for you to believe he could take Hulk out? Refresh my memory.
You didn't answer my question.
Thor 2 and Avengers 2 are my evidence
You're moving the goal post here.
Originally posted by carver9
The Jot buster. Lol, look at that scene again. He didn't even use the hammer part for that scene. It was a blast. A b.l.a.s.t. Not a hit, nothing blunt about it.
No, it's a strike. He charges up the hammer and then smashes the ground, releasing the shockwave that does all the damage. Did you even watch Thor?
Originally posted by carver9
The strike at the end of Avengers 2? On the machine? WTF. 😐 What was special about it?
The initial shockwave created by Thor, before the core detonated the entire rock, leveled several buildings. It's more than the Hulk has ever done. The combined shockwave from Hulk and Veronica's fists meeting didn't even do close to the same level of damage.
Originally posted by carver9
So the strike on Cap shield was all Thor?So again, the strike on Cap shield is all Thor? Think about it.
Well, considering all Cap did was block in both instances, yes, all the force came from Thor. Or are you claiming that Cap's shield amplifies any kinetic energy that hits it? If so, post proof. If Iron Man deflects his repulsor off of Cap's shield into someone, does Cap's shield magically boost the power of the repulsors? No, it doesn't.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
No, it's a strike. He charges up the hammer and then smashes the ground, releasing the shockwave that does all the damage. Did you even watch Thor?The initial shockwave created by Thor, before the core detonated the entire rock, leveled several buildings. It's more than the Hulk has ever done. The [B]combined
shockwave from Hulk and Veronica's fists meeting didn't even do close to the same level of damage.Well, considering all Cap did was block in both instances, yes, all the force came from Thor. Or are you claiming that Cap's shield amplifies any kinetic energy that hits it? If so, post proof. If Iron Man deflects his repulsor off of Cap's shield into someone, does Cap's shield magically boost the power of the repulsors? No, it doesn't. [/B]
Lol...and you ask me if I've seen the movie. Look at the scene. Get a better view.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WAtSrpRB98
It was not a slam. It was all his lightning during this attack.
So now we are making up stuff. Never happened with the bomb.
It's Vibranium and Adamantium. Thor adding his charged attack to Cap shield doesn't help your argument here.
Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Look at the fight (since we know you haven't seen the movie) and tell me what you see during the end of it.
Originally posted by carver9
Look at the fight (since we know you haven't seen the movie) and tell me what you see during the end of it.
Damn this must hurt your argument..
Originally posted by carver9
Lol...and you ask me if I've seen the movie. Look at the scene. Get a better view.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4WAtSrpRB98
It was not a slam. It was all his lightning during this attack.
So literally slamming his hammer into the ground, releasing the attack and triggering the giant shockwave, is now not using his hammer? You're an idiot. You can even hear the impact when he strikes the ground. And even if we all act blind and pretend it isn't a strike (which it is), it still proves my point that Thor's max damage with one attack >>> Hulk's max damage with one attack.
Originally posted by carver9
So now we are making up stuff. Never happened with the bomb.
Uh, yeah it did. And there was no bomb you nitwit. It was a vibranium core. I have watched Age of Ultron 3 times now, and watched that bit closely. The initial shockwave from the strike rips a bunch of buildings apart, then the the blue light from the core starts blazing through the ground as it detonates, and the entire rock goes. I've noticed it and a number of other people on this forum noticed it too. But you conveniently "forget" things that don't suit your argument, just like Tony's very clear comment about the "vibranium cocktail".
Originally posted by carver9
It's Vibranium and Adamantium. Thor adding his charged attack to Cap shield doesn't help your argument here.
Firstly, it's Vibranium only, as Adamantium doesn't exist in the MCU.
Based on feats, those trees would have been knocked over even if Thor had hit the ground, instead of Cap's shield. And all the shield did in Avengers 2 was allow him to angle the force of his attack in a straight line. He still produced the energy for the strike. The energy from both strikes came from Thor, unless you can prove that hitting Cap's shield amp'd the strikes, even though his shield has never amp'd anyone else's attacks throughout any of the movies.
Based on feats, Thor's maximum damage output >>> Hulk's. He would beat him in an all out fight. Hulk's brute strength advantage doesn't translate into superior overall striking power, and Thor's plethora of other abilities gives him too much of an advantage. I know it. Everyone else knows it. You are the only one who stubbornly refuses to accept the fact, but that's down to your Hulk famboyism. So instead of going through another 10 pages of this, I am done here.
Everyone who is being objective knows that Thor wins.
Kurse nearly dropped Thor with a boulder to the body.
That wouldn't have slowed Hulk down, at all, and Hulk hits much harder than that. Thor does well but he loses almost every time against the Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Kurse nearly dropped Thor with a boulder to the body.That wouldn't have slowed Hulk down, at all, and Hulk hits much harder than that. Thor does well but he loses almost every time against the Hulk.
This is just nonsense tbh.
If you want to play that game (Except this more or less fact) Thor was going toe to toe with Malekith who wielded an Infinity Stone capable of ending the nine realms.
Taking those blasts when we saw just how much power he had through Jane's visions is a way better feat than anything Hulk has done.
So is the Bifrost explosion. So is the city explosion. So is the Jotunheim feat.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This is just nonsense tbh.If you want to play that game (Except this more or less fact) Thor was going toe to toe with Malekith who wielded an Infinity Stone capable of ending the nine realms.
Taking those blasts when we saw just how much power he had through Jane's visions is a way better feat than anything Hulk has done.
So is the Bifrost explosion. So is the city explosion. So is the Jotunheim feat.
Theres no way to deny what I just posted. That boulder wouldn't have even tickled Hulk. You can bring up blasts if you want...unknown level of blasts but that doesn't help anything here. Hell, Ultron slamming Thor through some buildings damaged him significantly. Thor isn't close to being as durable or strong as Hulk. Everyone that has fought Thor and Hulk has looked weak against the Hulk. That's if we compare showings between the two.
Originally posted by carver9
Theres no way to deny what I just posted. That boulder wouldn't have even tickled Hulk. You can bring up blasts if you want...unknown level of blasts but that doesn't help anything here. Hell, Ultron slamming Thor through some buildings damaged him significantly. Thor isn't close to being as durable or strong as Hulk. Everyone that has fought Thor and Hulk has looked weak against the Hulk. That's if we compare showings between the two.
Getting hit with a elevator almost dropped him, but a giant boulder wouldn't even tickle him? 😆
Get outa my house.
