Originally posted by SpawningpoolInteresting. 👆
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Originally posted by ShakyamunisonYou say ironic, I say typical.
But Christians don't. How ironic.
Satan most certainly exists. Convincing the world he doesn't exist is just one of his many deceptions that he uses on the world:
http://www.askelm.com/doctrine/d950201.htm
Poor deceived fools can deny his existence all they want to but it still won't change the fact that he's real. He's laughing at all of the people who don't believe in him because they are easy prey for him to influence.
Originally posted by Star428
Satan most certainly exists. Convincing the world he doesn't exist is just one of his many deceptions that he uses on the world:
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Poor deceived fools can deny his existence all they want to but it still won't change the fact that he's real. He's laughing at all of the people who don't believe he's real.
No. Satan is mythology, and not real. 100% of all evil in the world is the responsibility of humans.
When I say that satan doesn't exist, I am just stating the truth.
Satan is a lot like santa clause. Everyone tells their children that the gifts on Christmas morning came from Santa, but we all know that santa clause didn't bring anything. That doesn't mean that giving doesn't exist. Just because satan doesn't exist doesn't mean that evil doesn't exist. We all need to step up and take responsibility for the evil that we do, and stop blaming a mythological magic man.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No. Satan is mythology, and not real. 100% of all evil in the world is the responsibility of humans.
Even in systems in which a satanic figures exist evil is considered the responsability of humans. Being tempted by Satan doesn't take responsability away from poeple at all.
Your idealization of other animals seems a bit naive to me though, some of them could very well be considered evil and then not 100% of evil would be human.
Originally posted by Bentley
Even in systems in which a satanic figures exist evil is considered the responsability of humans. Being tempted by Satan doesn't take responsability away from poeple at all.
There is no need for a tempter. Humans are quite capable of doing evil on their own.
Do you actually believe in satan? Or is satan just a personification of the human concept of evil.
Originally posted by Bentley
Your idealization of other animals seems a bit naive to me though, some of them could very well be considered evil and then not 100% of evil would be human.
When we are talking about good and evil we are only talking about humans. Christianity does not attribute good or evil to other animals.
BTW, humans are animals.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There is no need for a tempter. Humans are quite capable of doing evil on their own.
We don't need a tempter, but that doesn't logically refutes the possibility of a tempter. I don't think evil is a necessity.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Do you actually believe in satan? Or is satan just a personification of the human concept of evil.
I don't believe on a Satan that is a polar opposite of God or an absolute representative of evil. For me Satan seems to be more of a (loosely defined) role than an actual individual. In that sense, you can say I don't believe in Satan.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
When we are talking about good and evil we are only talking about humans. Christianity does not attribute good or evil to other animals.
Actually Christianity does attribute good and evil traits to non human entities. You'd be hard pressed to prove (by scripture or tradition) that other animals are uncapable of evil according to those beliefs.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
BTW, humans are animals.
Which is why I said other animals?
Originally posted by Bentley
We don't need a tempter, but that doesn't logically refutes the possibility of a tempter. I don't think evil is a necessity.
Originally posted by Bentley
I don't believe on a Satan that is a polar opposite of God or an absolute representative of evil. For me Satan seems to be more of a (loosely defined) role than an actual individual. In that sense, you can say I don't believe in Satan.
Originally posted by Bentley
Actually Christianity does attribute good and evil traits to non human entities. You'd be hard pressed to prove (by scripture or tradition) that other animals are uncapable of evil according to those beliefs.
Originally posted by Bentley
Which is why I said other animals?