life consiousness

what creates this consiousness we call life

is it created by a divine power?

are our bodies formed within the womb then are given a small electrical charge to power our bio-robotic parts?

is this reality around us even real? are we even experiencing "life"?

mass:gravity::complexity:consciousness

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
what creates this consiousness we call life

is it created by a divine power?

are our bodies formed within the womb then are given a small electrical charge to power our bio-robotic parts?

is this reality around us even real? are we even experiencing "life"?

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
what creates this consiousness we call life...

Information! Consciousness is what information feels like.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
is it created by a divine power?

What is "divine power"?

I think in terms of emerge rather then create.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
are our bodies formed within the womb then are given a small electrical charge to power our bio-robotic parts?

Life is an unbroken chain. Yes, our bodies are bio-robotic like, but reality goes further then that. We have no free will. We are like characters in a movie. We will always make the same choices under the same circumstances.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
is this reality around us even real? are we even experiencing "life"?

This is unknown. The true nature of reality is out there, but rather we humans can every understand it, is yet to be seen.

but we can only understand so much before we reach our individual limits

our infomation is limited, we have some control of what we take in but it is limited. is that what our conciousness is left to, a limited amount of data when there is a wealth of knowledge to be understood and preserved within our cells

Originally posted by Mindship
mass:gravity::complexity:consciousness

bio organic complexity or the idea of complexity itself. what gives "life" to this complexity. what allows us to start taking in infomation?

Is a programme have a consiousness? So does an ant have one? But is an ant a living thing?
Is a virus alive?
Cane a being of Silice live? If it have a counciessness so it live. But the reverse is not always true.

Counciessness, is a virtual world created by a wonderfull tool called brain, but not all brain provide, such miracle.

Counciessness is a real complex thing.. because in our language, conscient means to know, but there is a lot of thing that happen without being inknowledge by our spirit.. That's the sub-counscient, and I'm not talking about Freud theory... I'm talking about modern medcine !!! No theory of the 3 brain !!!!

That's why placebo have an effect !
There is some phenomen that science cannot explain...
Little story : There was guy sick, he had a lot of spot, but the doctor say that was not contagious, so he go to class-room anyway !
A sudden épédemmie happen, but most of the studden touched, are back in normal when they go back home.....
Except the studdent who is sick for real...
Because it was a physical manifestation of the over stress and general panic...
The diagnostic have been made they were all in good heatlth...
So how does their skin devlopped so many spot? What kind of reaction happened?
Well nobody knows.... But it came from the mind.....

COllective Hystéry still a mistery today.

thats alot to think about but makes total sense

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
bio organic complexity or the idea of complexity itself.

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
what gives "life" to this complexity. what allows us to start taking in infomation?

The holistic-transcendent view sees Life arising through matter, through (and 'shaped' by) our universe's physical laws, ultimately arising from (here we go) ... God / Infinite Consciousness / Pure Being / The Absolute / (essentially, insert your preferred term here).

IMO, your question is basically a nuanced form of the general inquiry, "Does God exist?" And there ain't no simple answers. 🤨

Originally posted by Mindship
Complexity itself, which (as far as we currently know) peaks with life forms, especially the human brain. It will be interesting to see what happens as we approach the artificial intelligence "singularity."

That's the $64,000 question. Life is an emergent quality. The reductive-materialist paradigm sees it arising from matter: an inevitable consequence of our spacetime's set of physical laws. Our particular universe is bio-friendly, so to speak, and Life, by definition, is a condition which makes use of information to deliberately make more of itself.

The holistic-transcendent view sees Life arising through matter, through (and 'shaped' by) our universe's physical laws, ultimately arising from (here we go) ... God / Infinite Consciousness / Pure Being / The Absolute / (essentially, insert your preferred term here).

IMO, your question is basically a nuanced form of the general inquiry, "Does God exist?" And there ain't no simple answers. 🤨

in one perspective this is an extention of does god exist but i want to know what consiousness is ( thank you for answering that by the way) and what starts it/ what gives us our first breath, our first thought

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
in one perspective this is an extention of does god exist but i want to know what consiousness is ( thank you for answering that by the way) and what starts it/ what gives us our first breath, our first thought

Ultimately, if you really want to understand consciousness, directly, first-hand ... meditate.

Consiousness is linear time. Both are processes of sensibility.

thats it?

i mean yeah i can understand a little of that but there must be more to it

Originally posted by Genesis-Soldier
thats it?

i mean yeah i can understand a little of that but there must be more to it

I don't see why that seems so little, sensibility is a huge problem when it comes to our universe, even as a tiny shard of that puzzle consiousness remains puzzling and mysterious.

i guess it is just my understanding of the matter.

if i dont really understand something i post a statement about the idea or element and watch you guys debate about it, it can teach me alot

Seeing as we are comprised of 75% water and water splashes tend to wake us up and God said; "I will let you drink from the living water."
Water may have something big to do with it.

i will let you drink from the living water... cannibalism perspective ?

A little thought exercise:

If we accept life is random, with no "intelligent design", what are the odds against you existing?

Starting from a specific sperm and egg meeting, out of a single batch. Produced at a single moment.

I mean, what if your mom just wasn't in the mood that day? What if they were just a few hours late with the honeymoon?

And that doesn't take into account THEIR folks, and so on and so forth.

What are the odds against?

Zero, because you are here.