Should Vitiate be banned from versus contests?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Story-lines concerning Vos, Bulq, Tholme, Dooku, and other trash characters doesn't even compare to the shit-fest that was KotOR II, let alone god-inspired works like KotOR.

Agreed that KOTOR 2 was a shit-fest. But nah, that era sucks. The defining character is a guy who actually has no personality whatsoever, but is merely a blank slate for fat, nerdy virgins to experience wish fulfillment and validation in a video game. That's it. And that's as damning as it gets.

Collectively, PT EU is vastly superior.

Damn, haters still pulling the "people only like Revan because you are him" card a decade after KotOR.

Well, in fairness, Revan has absolutely no character whatsoever. In KotOR, you play him; in KotOR II, you just hear about how great he was; in the novel, Karpyshyn manages to write a more one-dimensional character than Bane, and in TOR, he only gets less interesting than that.

I mean, the only reason that the Revan novel is safe from being cellar-tier is because of something called DD.

No, he's certainly a defined character in SoR. There's not really much of a debate there either.

I'd say even during the Mando Wars / as Sith Lord, a definitive portrayal of Revan was shown.

The only one lacking character is as a Jedi - and that's intentional.

Yep, because Revan got all his fans from SOR. 😂

A definitive portrayal - as a one-dimensional, sub-Bane character.

Let's be honest - nobody here likes Revan because of his character - it's because "he's so cool" and "look at all the OP stuff that Kreia says about him!"

Yup. 👆

Strengths and weaknesses are pretty clearly laid out. You don't need a dozen novels like Dooku has to be intriguing, rofl.

Characters with some mystery behind them are far more interesting than those who have everything spelled out like Dooku.

I've seen numerous people say that they never really liked Revan before, but they liked how he was portrayed in SoR.

Of course there's many others who disagree with that, but there are still some people, so let's not act like there isn't any.

The pt era is superior to the era of 2 wars, a jedi purge equivalent to order 66, and a 3rd galactic power? That's a good one 👆

Everybody has strengths and weaknesses - including Bane. Does that make him a great character? Dooku has depth and he's written by authors who do more than just jack off to how powerful their creations are.

Bane's a better character than Dooku, yeah. 👆

Bane is nothing but weakness

lmao @ the notion that any meaningful number of Revan's fans owe to the book or SWTOR. 😂

Just when I think your defense couldn't hit rock bottom, Ant, you manage to find a lower place.

We all know that Revan's popularity owes to nerd wish fulfillment. Nothing more. Revisionist history won't change that.

Sean Stewart and Matthew Stover are so much better than Karpyshyn at writing that they could literally write him and all of his creations out of existence, so no.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
lmao @ the notion that any meaningful number of Revan's fans owe to the book or SWTOR. 😂

Just when I think your defense couldn't hit rock bottom, Ant, you manage to find a lower place.

We all know that Revan's popularity owes to nerd wish fulfillment. Nothing more. Revisionist history won't change that.

Try again. 👆

Yeah, Karpyshyn isn't in the same sport as the Stovers and Stewarts and Lucenos, let alone league.

The mystery argument is also funny. The less we know about a character, the more compelling he is!

Snoke > Revan confirmed 👆

Originally posted by SunRazer
Sean Stewart and Matthew Stover are so much better than Karpyshyn at writing that they could literally write him and all of his creations out of existence, so no.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I became a Revan fan reading the book, not playing the game. 😬

That's pretty sad.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Stover's a god, yeah. Stewart's hardly better than Karpyshyn - if at all.

lmfao

Stewart wrote a potentially top 3 EU novel. Karpyshyn's novels are for people to fap over how powerful Bane and Revan are.

Originally posted by SunRazer
That's pretty sad.