Shaak Ti vs. Satele Shan

Started by The_Tempest3 pages

Shaak Ti vs. Satele Shan

Peak incarnations, all out.

Obvious bait thread, eh?

Of course. Testing a theory.

I see what you're doing. It's fun.

Huh

Post information about Shaak Ti. I will hold my response till then.

I have no idea who takes it. I'm waiting for better informed people to make an argument one way or another.

Seems to be a decent resource for information about her:

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/shaak-ti-respect-thread-1618863/

That's actually a pretty bad thread, tbh.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
That's actually a pretty bad thread, tbh.

Its a tough one to call in terms of skill, Ti has beaten Magnaguards (but iirc they weren't programmed to deal with Jedi using their staffs), and she held her own against Marek while having an environmental advantage/being amped by Felucia. Sources such as Jedi Conquest/the TFU novelization state that a Jedi feels invigorated/more powerful when surrounded by life, and such an amp would benefit Shaak Ti to allow herself to beat Galen:

Spoiler:
It was not a state he had quite ever achieved before, an utter awareness of
everything around him. Yavin 4 was so alive
. And in that matrix of living,
pulsing Force, the fliers were bubbles of nothing

-Jedi Conquest "Edge of Victory"

Spoiler:
The
entire jungle was alive with tin Force, from the tiniest spore to the mightiest
rancor, and the Felucians themselves were alive with it, too-so alive, in
She had taken a world enjoying the normal flows between the light and the
dark sides of the Force and twisted it out of balance. There was still
darkness on Felucia, but it was stifled, frustrated, weakened. He strained
to awaken it, to remind it of its proper place in the universe

-The Force Unleashed novelization

In terms of skill Satele has fought evenly with Darth Mekhis, lost to Darth Malgus twice, fought evenly with Darth Baras, blitzed Sith Warriors, and effortlessly crushed hex droids (3-4 Hex droids could hold off Jedi, Sith, and Mandalorians/Hutt guards fighting them all at once). Satele has shown somewhat more skill with a blade, probably not enough to make a difference but there isn't much of an indication Shaak became more skilled as time went on either (Galen was struggling with Kazdan and struggled with a Shadow Guard). In terms of skill Satele probably has an edge

For speed Shaak Ti has dodged omnidirectional blasterfire, moved in blurs, formed afterglows with her blades- Satele Shan has moved faster than Eldon Axe could move (she could form shields with her blades), blitzed Sith warriors etc, so Satele has en edge in speed.

In terms of telekinesis Satele outshines Shaak Ti she's crushed Hexdroids with a gesture, snapped a tree while fighting Malgus, blasted multiple Sith warriors in the air while landing, and shattered a blast door. Ti has thrown rubble, TKED Starkiller while amped, and hurled droids. Satele also has better showings of barrier and comparable if not superior showings of tutaminus (absorbing a blade and blasting Malgus into a mountain). Overall, I feel her marginal edge in skill and superior force abilities make her the most likely winner.

Well done, Cart. What about you, Leg.?

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Well done, Cart.

Well, I'm convinced.

Ti takes it.

I don't necessarily agree with the argument's conclusion or anything about it, but Carthage did provide exhaustive reasoning to support his claim.

Originally posted by Selenial
Well, I'm convinced.

Ti takes it.

Stop ****ing trolling me.

I see Felucia as of Shaak's fight with Galen to be akin to Ambria in DoE; unstable and on the knife's edge between the light and the darkness, but if anything leaning toward the latter tbh.

Originally posted by Mouse of X
you do know he said Satele takes it?

Yeh I don't agree with any of his conclusions, a side by side analysis of the feats was all I really wanted since I felt I was forgetting stuff for Satele.

Shaak Ti is more skilled and faster, Satele does have an edge in the force though. I don't see that edge being enough, Ti takes it.

Satele.

I don't really recall any notable physical differences in speed, strength, stamina, or otherwise between the two tbh. They're both heavyweight force users, though Satele's focuses are on the directly combative use of the Force, whereas Ti's are on the less direct, more arcane side of things. More often than not, Satele will probably have more of an advantage in direct combat, but depending on the setting Shaak could find herself in an advantageous position too. Both are very skilled and experienced fighters, but to be completely honest they're both ambiguous enough (especially Satele) that it's difficult to say who is moreso; I'd reckon that in the long run Satele's likely superior across the board, though. Should be a fairly close fight, though.

Originally posted by Selenial
Yeh I don't agree with any of his conclusions, a side by side analysis of the feats was all I really wanted since I felt I was forgetting stuff for Satele.

Shaak Ti is more skilled and faster, Satele does have an edge in the force though. I don't see that edge being enough, Ti takes it.

How is Shaak is more skilled?

Originally posted by carthage
How is Shaak is more skilled?

Better accolades tbh.

I've never really seen anything that hypes Satele's dueling skill, and unlike you I don't put "Lost to malgus" under the feats column 😛