Superman heat vision vs Thor lightning

Started by abhilegend13 pages

Originally posted by ashroro
.... thought this thread was about thor's lightning and superman's hv?

It's for an example.

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Originally posted by Igniz
So you're saying Thor's lightning attack wasn't needed?It wasn't instrumental?Answer this question then.Would SG Herc punch CK into the continuum on his own without Thor's lightning attack?I asked you this question since you believe Thor's lightning attack on CK wasn't instrumental.Another question.Since you keep saying Thor's lightning attack startled CK, how did it startled CK long enough for SG Herc to punch CK into the continuum?I already provided examples(Daimon and Zeus) of CK(pre 98.76% destruction of the multiverse) of getting attacked and shrugging off said attack as comparison to Thor's lightning attack on CK powered by 98.76% of the multiverse.Lets see your version.

Irrelevant and off topic.This thread is about Superman's HV vs Thor's Lightning.This part of your post is off topic and shows your desperation and immaturity while the post I made of Thor attacking CK with his lightning bolt is relevant to the thread.Post that in the Thor vs Superman who strikes harder thread or something.But GTFO that in here since it has nothing to do with this thread whatsoever.


You are just rehashing the same thing over and over. Why is it that there is no expression of pain from CK from that lightning? Simple answer would be suffice.

And that's where the hypocrisy of Thor bags shows. But here you go, Superman destroys Dominus' body in one HV blast.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=ccf0311201100000-1.jpg

Dominus manhandled and oneshotted Kismet, the embodiment of existence in the same arc.

Better than momentarily startle CK, eh?

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's for an example.

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You are just rehashing the same thing over and over. Why is it that there is no expression of pain from CK from that lightning? Simple answer would be suffice.

And that's where the hypocrisy of Thor bags shows. But here you go, Superman destroys Dominus' body in one HV blast.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=ccf0311201100000-1.jpg

Dominus manhandled and oneshotted Kismet, the embodiment of existence in the same arc.

Better than momentarily startle CK, eh?

You're kidding right?Are you saying CK=Dominus? Because I don't see any reason Dominus is equal to the Chaos King.CK would eat Dominus like a pizza.BTW Your example is weak sauce.Dominus tells Superman that his body regenerates after getting HVed.And Dominus makes Superman kneel in pain ala Zod from Superman 2.Not a good example since Dominus can't even compare to CK.And seriously?Kismet?A being who barely has any feats compared to Eternity.I'll just say it now.Chaos King destroyed 98.76% of the multiverse.Made Eternity refuse to help SG Herc.Made Death fled from the multiverse.That's 2 abstract that CK owned.You can add Love,Hate,Infinity,Order,Chaos and etc to CK's rep since the destruction of the multiverse means the other abstracts wont exist.The other abstracts didn't even fight CK.Dominus would be street level compared to CK.The Thor lightning attack on CK still makes your Superman HVed Dominus example weak sauce.

Originally posted by Igniz
You're kidding right?Are you saying CK=Dominus? Because I don't see any reason Dominus is equal to the Chaos King.CK would eat Dominus like a pizza.BTW Your example is weak sauce.Dominus tells Superman that his body regenerates after getting HVed.And Dominus makes Superman kneel in pain ala Zod from Superman 2.Not a good example since Dominus can't even compare to CK.And seriously?Kismet?A being who barely has any feats compared to Eternity.I'll just say it now.Chaos King destroyed 98.76% of the multiverse.Made Eternity refuse to help SG Herc.Made Death fled from the multiverse.That's 2 abstract that CK owned.You can add Love,Hate,Infinity,Order,Chaos and etc to CK's rep since the destruction of the multiverse means the other abstracts wont exist.The other abstracts didn't even fight CK.Dominus would be street level compared to CK.The Thor lightning attack on CK still makes your Superman HVed Dominus example weak sauce.

No, but destroying his body>mildly annoying CK.

Are you saying Thor was a threat to CK? In that case, I've to just laugh at you.

Also CK was just an aspect of an abstract Oblivion. But enough of this shit, it's not that great of a feat to mildly annoy CK compared to Superman destroying Dominus body in one blast of HV.

Considering the results to the bad guys would be the same if Thor and Supes switched for those two feats...🙂

Originally posted by celeyhyga17

I admire your patience.

Too bad he'll come back with...


😂 ... I submit being a witness to your clairvoyance.
Originally posted by Igniz

So you're saying Thor's lightning attack wasn't needed?
It wasn't instrumental?
Answer this question then.Would SG Herc punch CK into the continuum on his own without Thor's lightning attack?

I asked you this question since you believe Thor's lightning attack on CK wasn't instrumental.

Another question.

Since you keep saying Thor's lightning attack startled CK,
how did it startled CK long enough for SG Herc to punch CK into the continuum?

I already provided examples(Daimon and Zeus) of CK(pre 98.76% destruction of the multiverse)
of getting attacked and shrugging off said attack as comparison
to Thor's lightning attack on CK powered by 98.76% of the multiverse.Lets see your version.


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Originally posted by Igniz
You're kidding right?Are you saying CK=Dominus? Because I don't see any reason Dominus is equal to the Chaos King.CK would eat Dominus like a pizza.BTW Your example is weak sauce.Dominus tells Superman that his body regenerates after getting HVed.And Dominus makes Superman kneel in pain ala Zod from Superman 2.Not a good example since Dominus can't even compare to CK.And seriously?Kismet?A being who barely has any feats compared to Eternity.I'll just say it now.Chaos King destroyed 98.76% of the multiverse.Made Eternity refuse to help SG Herc.Made Death fled from the multiverse.That's 2 abstract that CK owned.You can add Love,Hate,Infinity,Order,Chaos and etc to CK's rep since the destruction of the multiverse means the other abstracts wont exist.The other abstracts didn't even fight CK.Dominus would be street level compared to CK.The Thor lightning attack on CK still makes your Superman HVed Dominus example weak sauce.
The fallacy of your argument is that you assume all character's power levels (including durability) are always the same in every comic. This is not true. I can name many examples of a character tanking something and in another instance being affected by something less powerful. If a chandelier flame can hurt Juggernaut in a comic then there is no limit to this fluctuation. Imo, Thor's lightning on CK wasn't capable of shattering average adamantium.

The second fallacy is that you are ignoring the kryptonite effect. Some characters are more vulnerable to some attacks than others. Doesn't mean one attack is generally more powerful than another.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I never said Spectre was the only one to cause anything. Go back and read my post.

And it literally does not matter what recaps say. You're on the basis that neglecting to mention something means it never happened. Following your logic Extant was completely retconned out of the event in one retelling. And following your logic it's a complete mystery how Hal even got these powers in the first place. Which for starters on all the shit we could bring up are some pretty ****ing important details in Zero Hour. Hal just went nuts and started erasing timelines with his own power. Canon.

What Zero Hour was just the end fight then, no lead up? That's your logic here.

The fact that you're using short retellings when the original feat was longer than those with a ****ton of context should show you're barking up the wrong alley. The ****ing fact that you're basically telling me to ignore the actual comic it happened in says you're wrong.

Nothing was specifically changed in those retellings. Nothing. All there was was attention to detail missing which is to be expected when you deal with any event let alone an event of this magnitude.

This is the shadiest shit I've seen in a long time. You would cry Rao if the same was flipped around on Superman. I don't understand how you think this retcons anything when by the same logic you can retcon 99 percent of the event.

This is ****ing stupid. Straight up ass hole shitting in an ass hole level of stupid.

You're using simplified accounts of the event as to give the reader an idea of what happened and expecting that to be the true tale of what happened. That'd be like listening to Carver shorten a story over someone summarizing an event panel for panel.

You might as well just start reading summaries from the authors of their novels and vehemently stand firm in anything not happening in the summary is wrong.
"The author didn't write that whore getting gangbanged in the summary, why don't you eat a dick and then make sure to include it in a summary of your life."

Also according to 52 Kyle held a full power Parallax at bay all by himself while the heroes were big banging Damage.

It's just... why do you do this? The retellings aren't wrong, they just fit the definition of lacking context. It is not telling us everything we already know from that event.

And lol at this having anything to do with me or my opinion. Yes, the writer should have consulted me for the retelling. Surely this is reliant on me. Shame on me and such and such.
You're literally ignoring crucial details from the actual comic the actual feat takes place that the retellings were based off of so you can put Superman on a pedestal. This should naturally fall on me as opposed to you.

"Two abstract level beings were involved in putting energy through Damage to create a big bang? Yeah maybe in the comic loser! Two seperate retellings didn't mention that so naturally that means Superman's penis is the juiciest hog around. I don't say this enough, but what a cock!"

I'm honestly suprised you don't stab Celey in his sleep with that reach.

Epic level ownage here, but really, did you expect Abhi to interrupt a scan of superman correctly? Honestly?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Epic level ownage here, but really, did you expect Abhi to interrupt a scan of superman correctly? Honestly?

From my experience Abhi deals only in the interpretation and not the interruption of scans.

It's KuRuPT. He doesn't know how to interrupt scans. Or how to post one.

Originally posted by h1a8
The fallacy of your argument is that you assume all character's power levels (including durability) are always the same in every comic. This is not true. I can name many examples of a character tanking something and in another instance being affected by something less powerful. If a chandelier flame can hurt Juggernaut in a comic then there is no limit to this fluctuation. Imo, Thor's lightning on CK wasn't capable of shattering average adamantium.

The second fallacy is that you are ignoring the kryptonite effect. Some characters are more vulnerable to some attacks than others. Doesn't mean one attack is generally more powerful than another.

Question because I see you argue for this showing all of the time. Was the Probes durability the same when Superman and Doomsday fought them?

Originally posted by carver9
Question because I see you argue for this showing all of the time. Was the Probes durability the same when Superman and Doomsday fought them?
The same as what other showings?

Originally posted by h1a8
The same as what other showings?

Compared to what was shown before/period. Simple question...was the Probes durability the same when they fought Doomsday and Superman? You said characters durability fluctuates comic to comic so I need to know if it applied to that showing as well.

Also, did Superman durability fluctuate when Doomsday shot one of his claws through Superman like a hot knife through butter?

Originally posted by carver9
Also, did Superman durability fluctuate when Doomsday shot one of his claws through Superman like a hot knife through butter?

Fluctuate from when to when?
Yes Superman's durability fluctuates just like any characters from comic to comic.

Originally posted by carver9
Compared to what was shown before/period. Simple question...was the Probes durability the same when they fought Doomsday and Superman? You said characters durability fluctuates comic to comic so I need to know if it applied to that showing as well.
Many would argue that all of the probes weren't equals because of various showings. So it could make sense that all probes don't have the same durability. But their durability would not be vastly different than any other probe. So I would say that the probes Superman and DD fought were very close in durability to the one Superman fought at the beginning. This is because there is no large enough inconsistencies or contradictions to make us believe otherwise.

And carver I already know where you are going. Don't be so hasty. Just ask your questions thoroughly without hinting to your point. Let me trap myself nice and good first, then pounce on me. I promise to be truthful in the whole ordeal.

Originally posted by krisblaze
From my experience Abhi deals only in the interpretation and not the interruption of scans.

Luckily we aren't having to interpret whether somebody can turn another into salt...

Originally posted by h1a8
Fluctuate from when to when?
Yes Superman's durability fluctuates just like any characters from comic to comic.

Many would argue that all of the probes weren't equals because of various showings. So it could make sense that all probes don't have the same durability. But their durability would not be vastly different than any other probe. So I would say that the probes Superman and DD fought were very close in durability to the one Superman fought at the beginning. This is because there is no large enough inconsistencies or contradictions to make us believe otherwise.

And carver I already know where you are going. Don't be so hasty. Just ask your questions thoroughly without hinting to your point. Let me trap myself nice and good first, then pounce on me. I promise to be truthful in the whole ordeal.

You're contradicting yourself. You never said anything about time in your post. What does time have to do with the argument you are making when you are saying that a characters durability fluctuates?

Guys, no more bashing.

Stop the lowballing too, thanks.

Originally posted by carver9
You're contradicting yourself. You never said anything about time in your post. What does time have to do with the argument you are making when you are saying that a characters durability fluctuates?
You are asking questions. You have to be clear. I did give time. I said from 'comic to comic'.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are asking questions. You have to be clear. I did give time. I said from 'comic to comic'.

But Superman first fight against the probe vs the time he fought the Probes with Doomsday was a LOT of time apart. A lot of 'comics' apart.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's for an example.

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You are just rehashing the same thing over and over. Why is it that there is no expression of pain from CK from that lightning? Simple answer would be suffice.

And that's where the hypocrisy of Thor bags shows. But here you go, Superman destroys Dominus' body in one HV blast.

http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/?action=view&current=ccf0311201100000-1.jpg

Dominus manhandled and oneshotted Kismet, the embodiment of existence in the same arc.

Better than momentarily startle CK, eh?

You cannot use an invalid feat. Superman flying through darkseid's energy fork is not relevant to this thread and has no basis here.