Darth Bane vs Darth Tenebrous

Started by Stigma3 pages

Originally posted by NewGuy01
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Tenebrous was one of the final Sith Masters of the Banite lineage, and logically one of the most powerful of them all whereas DoE Bane should be one of the less powerful members.

Yeah. 👆

TBH I am perplexed that a lot of people do not grasp this.

Originally posted by SunRazer
Bane isn't even close to superior to Tenebrous in everything, and it's basically confirmed that each member of the Banite Sith Order became more powerful consecutively. There was a setback around the Gravid-Gean period (but in knowledge, not so much strength), but other than that, it does make sense.
that would be true if apprentices weren't killing there masters in their sleep

It's not necessarily the way it works. Many times less powerful individuals kill their masters in ways that don't show obvious superiority and in other cases the apprentices may not have the potential to become as powerful as their masters. It's not clear cut.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
It's not necessarily the way it works. Many times less powerful individuals kill their masters in ways that don't show obvious superiority and in other cases the apprentices may not have the potential to become as powerful as their masters. It's not clear cut.

The Phantom Menace Scrapbook confirmed that the Sith became more powerful with each generation. Even if they weren't stronger than their Masters at the time of their ascent, they got that way in the end. The only exceptions being Palpatine's three disciples, who never got the chance.

Do you believe Zannah eventually became more powerful and skillful than Bane?

Yup.

If she didn't the Order of the Sith Lords would be a failure pretty early on.

Unnamed Male Devaronian>Darth Bane

Hmmm.

Originally posted by Trocity
Unnamed Male Devaronian>Darth Bane

Every member of the Sith order after establishment of the Rule of Two > Darth Bane

Originally posted by Stigma
Every member of the Sith order after establishment of the Rule of Two > Darth Bane
im trying very hard not to facepalm

Pretty much any Sith that has beaten anyone apart from weaklings like Kas'im and Sirak is above Darth Bane

Originally posted by SunRazer
Bane isn't even close to superior to Tenebrous in everything, and it's basically confirmed that each member of the Banite Sith Order became more powerful consecutively. There was a setback around the Gravid-Gean period (but in knowledge, not so much strength), but other than that, it does make sense.

Tenebrous has demonstrated nothing remotely on Bane's level.

Is Zannah more powerful than Bane? Is Cognus? The RoT is inherently flawed in that just because one defeats the previous Sith it does not make them more powerful. Cognus' strength wasn't power, it was foresight and force dampening. Zannah beat a past-prime Bane purely because she had access to techniques he had no defense against. It's also complete nonsense that the Sith just miraculously found a force user with greater potential every generation. Zannah almost inducted Set Harth for godssakes.

Originally posted by WildBantha88
im trying very hard not to facepalm

Except, like Temp mentioned, it was established in official sources. Sorry, bro.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Is Zannah more powerful than Bane? Is Cognus? The RoT is inherently flawed in that just because one defeats the previous Sith it does not make them more powerful. Cognus' strength wasn't power, it was foresight and force dampening. Zannah beat a past-prime Bane purely because she had access to techniques he had no defense against. It's also complete nonsense that the Sith just miraculously found a force user with greater potential every generation. Zannah almost inducted Set Harth for godssakes.

Except, we never see Zannah's or Cognus's development beyond DoE. There's no conradiction.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
Then why for example someone like Dooku is lesser than Plagueis?

Well we can't confirm dooku is lesser than plaguis in the force I would personally place dooku as a better combative force weilder, however it is up for debate, but he was a south apprentice but he was just a place holder. If anakin would have not been burned alive he would have been what should have happened with the with the next one comes above the former. Dooku was just a place holder.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Tenebrous has demonstrated nothing remotely on Bane's level.

Is Zannah more powerful than Bane? Is Cognus? The RoT is inherently flawed in that just because one defeats the previous Sith it does not make them more powerful. Cognus' strength wasn't power, it was foresight and force dampening. Zannah beat a past-prime Bane purely because she had access to techniques he had no defense against. It's also complete nonsense that the Sith just miraculously found a force user with greater potential every generation. Zannah almost inducted Set Harth for godssakes.

Each Sith inherits the others strength and power in the force as was bane intention. However in the line some stray. Darty Zannah for instance, her focus was Sith Magic while bane never held any real talent or even interest in it. So she inherits his power as she was taught but it's cancelled by the fact that Zannah was more concerned with Sith Magic. Also some Sith like plaguis can be skilled with the blade but they don't like it. They learn what they have two and let it stray away while they focus on the force.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
Do you believe Zannah eventually became more powerful and skillful than Bane?

Eventually.

That's okay. That means someone like Darth Ramage can utterly trounce Maul since Ramage is>>>>Bane

Maul would rape Bane in a duel per feats and accolades, I'm not sure anyone can follow your braindamaged "logic"

Originally posted by Nephthys
Tenebrous has demonstrated nothing remotely on Bane's level.

Is Zannah more powerful than Bane? Is Cognus? The RoT is inherently flawed in that just because one defeats the previous Sith it does not make them more powerful. Cognus' strength wasn't power, it was foresight and force dampening. Zannah beat a past-prime Bane purely because she had access to techniques he had no defense against. It's also complete nonsense that the Sith just miraculously found a force user with greater potential every generation. Zannah almost inducted Set Harth for godssakes.

How does Tenebrous erecting Shields on short notice that repel explosions not comparable? For the record, the explosion could sunder entire mines the size of cathedrals.

Not as of DoE, but after she kills him and advances to her prime, yes. Each successive member has pretty much been canonically stated to be more powerful.