Hulk vs Chronicle

Originally posted by Surtur
Eh, just because you are the first to begin using your powers well doesn't exactly mean you are the strongest. It seems like Andrew just needed more time to adjust to his powers.

Though I think they all probably had the same overall potential when it came to power levels.

Sure they all had the same potential, Steve the Black Guy just thought more outside the box with his.

The cousin was clearly the worst, I'd say Andrew and Steve the Black Guy were even.

Even extreamly hurt and fcked up, he was pretty Uber. He was controlling the weather and creating lightning. Sure Steve could have been just as powerful but overall Andrew was shown to have expanded his powers more then anyone else.

Originally posted by Mindset
I'd say the black kid was pretty equal to Andrew, he was the first to realize they could fly.

If he practiced all the time like Andrew he'd probably be better.

I think the one kid, the one who survived, just didn't really seem that interested in becoming as powerful as he possibly could. In fact, it really seemed like only Andrew wanted to go that far. The other two were just some guys that got some powers and enjoyed them..and then you have the creepy kid who got entirely consumed by them and began calling himself an apex predator.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Considering his powers were from Space and Aliens...the space argument isn't really gonna work.

I'm not sure I really understand what you are actually saying. I don't have any "space" argument. I'm just saying Hulks feats from the last two movies are enough to say Andrews shields are not going to be taking hits from him.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Even extreamly hurt and fcked up, he was pretty Uber. He was controlling the weather and creating lightning. Sure Steve could have been just as powerful but overall Andrew was shown to have expanded his powers more then anyone else.

He didn't create any lightning.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not sure I really understand what you are actually saying. I don't have any "space" argument. I'm just saying Hulks feats from the last two movies are enough to say Andrews shields are not going to be taking hits from him.

There hits were strong enough to send the crashing through buildings while still not even being hurt. Regardless if he went to punch him, he could just stop him in his tracks.

I only recall lightning happening when the guy got killed, but I had taken that to mean his powers were messing with the storm that was going on and caused a lightning bolt to hit the guy? I don't know, maybe he did create it. It seemed vague on just exactly what the hell happened.

Originally posted by Surtur
I think the one kid, the one who survived, just didn't really seem that interested in becoming as powerful as he possibly could. In fact, it really seemed like only Andrew wanted to go that far. The other two were just some guys that got some powers and enjoyed them..and then you have the creepy kid who got entirely consumed by them and began calling himself an apex predator.

This was all Andrew had.

Steve the Black Guy totally had more raw potential out of the box. Andrew surpassed him due to his OCD and having no life.

Steve the Black Guy had other friends, a girlfriend, sports, social a life etc. Andrew sat in his room alone practicing.

Also, Surtur's "space argument" is awful 👇

Originally posted by Surtur
I only recall lightning happening when the guy got killed, but I had taken that to mean his powers were messing with the storm that was going on and caused a lightning bolt to hit the guy? I don't know, maybe he did create it. It seemed vague on just exactly what the hell happened.

Yes it was explained in the movie

What space argument. I said Hulk one shotted a space dragon. It was only brought up to show the type of strength Hulk had.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Yes it was explained in the movie

What explanation did they give?

Originally posted by Surtur
What space argument. I said Hulk one shotted a space dragon.

What explanation did they give?

They are in the clouds flying together. Steve keeps asking him what's up. They get into an arguement and Andrew hits him with lightning. Then the other friend figures it out and confronts him. Andrew fesses up.

There was a lightning storm, Andrew redirected one of the bolts to hit Steve the Black Guy. Even that was ambiguous as to whether he did it or not.

You can call that weather manipulation, if you want.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
They are in the clouds flying together. Steve keeps asking him what's up. They get into an arguement and Andrew hits him with lightning. Then the other friend figures it out and confronts him. Andrew fesses up.

He fesses up that he killed him. Which technically even if he just redirected a lightning bolt at him would still make his confession true.

Originally posted by Mindset
There was a lightning storm, Andrew redirected one of the bolts to hit Steve the Black Guy. Even that was ambiguous as to whether he did it or not.

You can call that weather manipulation, if you want.

Originally posted by Surtur
He fesses up that he killed him. Which technically even if he just redirected a lightning bolt at him would still make his confession true.

If you knew he fessed up he killed him, why did you ask me if it was exaplined?

As he got more mad, the lightning kept getting worse and worse then he hit him with lightning. That's weather manipulation.

This lightning bolt argument is silly. Even if Andrew is able to redirect lightning, there has to be a lightning storm to begin with in the match and none was listed.

Also, Steve the Black Guy is susceptible to lightning, Hulk probably isn't as he's survived energy attacks before.

In terms of sheer power, nothing Andrew did made me think, Wow, that's like Hulk-level. His only real chance here is BFR: to levitate the Hulk from a distance and hope there's no thunderclap.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
If you knew he fessed up he killed him, why did you ask me if it was exaplined?

As he got more mad, the lightning kept getting worse and worse then he hit him with lightning. That's weather manipulation.

So he was redirecting the lightning, not creating it.

Originally posted by Mindset
It was getting closer, not really worse.

So he was redirecting the lightning, not creating it.

If you watch the clip. It's clearly obvious he as he's getting more angry the lighting is getting worse then he hits him with it. It's visually obvious it's directly relating to his anger then he unleashes it on Steve.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
If you watch the clip. It's clearly obvious he as he's getting more angry the lighting is getting worse then he hits him with it. It's visually obvious it's directly relating to his anger then he unleashes it on Steve.

Originally posted by Mindset
I did watch the clip, the lightning was constant the entire time, it only got closer.

So why was the lightning not even a problem before then as soon as he starts getting mad it's getting worse and worse. It's literally timed out in the movie that way. Andrew was brining it closer and causing it to get worse.