Top 10 Harry Potter Duelists

Originally posted by juggerman
I have no problem with you or other using reputation in this. I just don't feel it works that well when you have children beating adults left and right. I don't just mean in that scene either. And Malfoy did nothing impressive to me. He could have grown in status other ways than being a savvy duelist. Wormtail became one of Vold's most trusted lackies and he was ass imo. Draco got in Vold's good graces too and he sucked.

Wormtounge never held a position of power. He was merely a servant.

By contrast, Lucius wasn't merely in Voldemort's good graces, he was his 2nd in command. The two aren't comparable.

Originally posted by ares834
Wormtounge never held a position of power. He was merely a servant.

By contrast, Lucius wasn't merely in Voldemort's good graces, he was his 2nd in command. The two aren't comparable.

True but nothing at all says he needs to be a great duelist to be Vold's right hand. He could be sure smart and influential. Not hat he would be a shit duelist but honestly his influence, power and wealth would be more helpful than if he were just some super badass fighter.

Let's get something straight people, Harry is powerful but he doesn't rank amongst the best of his time. Bellatrix is is not that far behind snape and mcgonaagll and they are way above Harry. Hell snape even says potter you can never win any type of fuel if you don't keep your mouth shut and your mind closed. Harry was only able to disarm voldemort due to a couple of severe disadvantages for voldemort. 1. The elder wand wasn't going to kill it's master. 2. He had just lost the last piece of his soul. Harry is powerful but he isn't Dumbledore, he isn't voldemort, he isn't any of the top duelist. He doesn't rank in the top 5 and I would go as far to say the top 10 and possibly the top 15. I can give you a list of people who would take Harry out top 10 list.

Dumbledore
Voldemort
Grindlewald
Mcgonaagll
Snape
Moody
Kingsley
Lucius
Sirius
Lupin
Tonks
Flitwick
Draco
Hermione
Dolohov
Bellatrix

Also Molly beating bellatrix is not legit. Notice bellatrix had her completely on the ropes until she got cocky and let up. She was underestimating Molly and not embracing the power she had. She was also caught off guard with the magic she was letting out. So Molly is not a top 10 duelist.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Also, Lucius ****ing Malfoy???

Able to go toe to toe with Sirius and is stated to be the only death eater other than snape who skills were able to contend with bellatrix or so they say.

Originally posted by michaelx
1. Harry Potter
2. Neville Longbottom
3. Ron Weasely
4. Bellatrix
5. Hermoine Granger
6. Tom Riddle
7. Snape
8. Dumbledore
9. Voldemort
10. Hagrid

Why is dumbleodre #8 on this list?

Originally posted by Jmanghan
Harry isn't in this????

Seriously, dude was easily above Bellatrix.

How?

Harry, with practice, definitely could of surpassed Bellatrix. But I don't think we ever saw him do anything that would put him above her in a duel.

Originally posted by juggerman
True but nothing at all says he needs to be a great duelist to be Vold's right hand. He could be sure smart and influential. Not hat he would be a shit duelist but honestly his influence, power and wealth would be more helpful than if he were just some super badass fighter.

Of course we know Lucius is the opposite of smart. He tries to murder Harry Potter with the AK right inside Hogwarts.

Originally posted by Surtur
Of course we know Lucius is the opposite of smart. He tries to murder Harry Potter with the AK right inside Hogwarts.

You can't count that against him. He just lost his best slave! His buttrage made him act before thinking

How the hell did the wizards even enslave a race that seems more powerful then them? This is never explained. Even if the elves aren't more powerful they seem at least equal, and capable of casting magic a lot quicker then most humans.

Originally posted by Surtur
How the hell did the wizards even enslave a race that seems more powerful then them? This is never explained. Even if the elves aren't more powerful they seem at least equal, and capable of casting magic a lot quicker then most humans.

Same way humans enslave other humans I assume. Fear, superior numbers ect.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How?

Harry beat Lucius in a real duel, beat Voldemort, twice.

Seriously, what has Bellatrix done that is on the level of Harry Potter who, by the 5th movie, is at least Sirius level.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
He beat her, twice
Harry beat Lucius in a real duel, beat Voldemort, twice.

Seriously, what has Bellatrix done that is on the level of Harry Potter who, by the 5th movie, is at least Sirius level.

He beat bellatrix twice? When?

He did disarm him of his walking stick however sirius did most of the work. Also this is speculation but wasn't Lucius distracted for a second since his partner had just been taken out.

Bellatrix is known to be on level of snape and mcgonagll people who we know can defeat Harry by his sixth year and his seventh year.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
He beat bellatrix twice? When?

He did disarm him of his walking stick however sirius did most of the work. Also this is speculation but wasn't Lucius distracted for a second since his partner had just been taken out.

Bellatrix is known to be on level of snape and mcgonagll people who we know can defeat Harry by his sixth year and his seventh year.

5th movie, and also in the Part 1 of the 7th movie.

Originally posted by Jmanghan
5th movie, and also in the Part 1 of the 7th movie.

So her running and not putting up a fight me as she was beaten. She didn't draw her wand at Harry to fight she was just running, just exiting the scene. I will have to rewtach that part because I don't recall when he fought her and won. He fought Draco and narcissa then bellatrix held a knife up to,hermione throat. In this battle however bellatrix did dispatch 4 death eaters by herself.

Originally posted by juggerman
Same way humans enslave other humans I assume. Fear, superior numbers ect.

But they can teleport away whenever they want, they are even powerful enough to get into Hogwarts. Harry should of been using Dobby to try to get the assistance of other elves. They could of used the excuse that Voldemort was a treat to all their masters. It would of been awesome to see a bunch of elves fighting Death Eaters. Dobby slapped down Lucius Malfoy pretty easily.

Originally posted by Surtur
But they can teleport away whenever they want, they are even powerful enough to get into Hogwarts. Harry should of been using Dobby to try to get the assistance of other elves. They could of used the excuse that Voldemort was a treat to all their masters. It would of been awesome to see a bunch of elves fighting Death Eaters. Dobby slapped down Lucius Malfoy pretty easily.

JK Rowling has stated that a common former with a shotgun could defeat a wizard.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
JK Rowling has stated that a common former with a shotgun could defeat a wizard.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
JK Rowling has stated that a common former with a shotgun could defeat a wizard.

What a silly statement for her to make. At BEST, that is a quickdraw. Not a guaranteed win.

Originally posted by Surtur
What a silly statement for her to make. At BEST, that is a quickdraw. Not a guaranteed win.

I think when she said that she wanted people that these were kill able wizards by normal human weapons.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I think when she said that she wanted people that these were kill able wizards by normal human weapons.

What?