Sidious vs. Dooku, Anakin, Kenobi

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Sidious vs. Dooku, Anakin, Kenobi

Set on the Invisible Hand. Dooku turns on his master and aids the two Jedi in trying to kill him. Being as this is set on the Invisible Hand, Anakin is performing at Invisible Hand levels.

Round 1:ROTS Sidious
Round 2:ROTJ Sidious
Round 3: DE Sidious

All out, all times.

Re: Sidious vs. Dooku, Anakin, Kenobi

Might take Round 1. Lose round 2 and 3. Kenobi is a non-factor, though.

Sidious takes all 3 rounds.

Originally posted by Sinious
Sidious takes all 3 rounds.

Team has got a shot during round 1, but Sids can tip the scales at any time by launching force lightning at them. Should be Sids all rounds unless one of the three is able to distract him and give one of the other team members a hail mary chance.

The Team takes this imo.

You think the team wins? All 3 rounds?

...Explain.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
You think the team wins? All 3 rounds?

...Explain.

Explain what? Dooku (who probably is the most fearful of Sidious' power) states that a fully trained Savage and himself could overthrow Sidious. Anakin performing at Invisible Hand levels is above Dooku level. If Sidious kills Kenobi in front of Anakin he'll perform even better. I don't think even Sidious can handle 2 Dooku level people + Kenobi.

Well, Maul>Savage, and Sidious vs. Dooku and Maul ends up with the pair getting pwned. Maul and or Savage (or even both of them) is not sufficient support to make that interesting.

I see this being Anakin and Dooku attacking while Obi Wan, who's thoroughly outclassed, desperately hides behind Soresu trying not to die.

Sidious will probably be fighting with two sabers, and he's still faster then both opponents by a fair bit. In the Force, Anakin is too poorly trained and Dooku just isn't there.

ROTJ Sidious will just attack with the Force, as opposed to the ROTS version who might melee them. None of the 3 of them can contend with ROTJ Sidious in the Force, and he shouldn't have a problem.

DE Sidious far surpasses the lesser versions, around 120% of their strength or so, and it would take considerably more then this team to deal with him.

Anyways, I asked you to explain because you're expressing a minority opinion.

Originally posted by Angelalex242
Well, Maul>Savage, and Sidious vs. Dooku and Maul ends up with the pair getting pwned. Maul and or Savage (or even both of them) is not sufficient support to make that interesting.

Emphasis on fully trained Savage. Remember that Dooku felt that Savage was a threat to both Grievous and himself and honestly post ritual and fully trained he would likely defeat Maul.


I see this being Anakin and Dooku attacking while Obi Wan, who's thoroughly outclassed, desperately hides behind Soresu trying not to die.

You're underestimating Kenobi then. Sidious can dismiss him casually with the force but I doubt he'd go down that fast with both Anakin AND Dooku pressuring Sidious.


Sidious will probably be fighting with two sabers, and he's still faster then both opponents by a fair bit. In the Force, Anakin is too poorly trained and Dooku just isn't there.

Poorly trained? Mace Windu and the ROTS novel state he's perhaps the most powerful Jedi in history while Yoda drew breath. He's not going to get fodderized by Sidious.


ROTJ Sidious will just attack with the Force, as opposed to the ROTS version who might melee them. None of the 3 of them can contend with ROTJ Sidious in the Force, and he shouldn't have a problem.

The three of them combined should be able to deflect Sidious' force attacks. And if not use Kenobi as bait as they close the distance.


DE Sidious far surpasses the lesser versions, around 120% of their strength or so, and it would take considerably more then this team to deal with him.

Anyways, I asked you to explain because you're expressing a minority opinion.

I'd concede that DE Sidious can take this.

I think Team might take 1.

What is this about using Kenobi as bait? Against SIDS any of the three can easily be dismissed with the Force. Need I remind you that SIDS already ragdolled Dooku from across the galaxy?

Originally posted by WildBantha88
What is this about using Kenobi as bait? Against SIDS any of the three can easily be dismissed with the Force. Need I remind you that SIDS already ragdolled Dooku from across the galaxy?

So I wonder why he didn't just ragdoll Mace Windu with the Force? And no Mace is not > Dooku in TK.

But ragdolling someone in front of you Mid-Saber fight is a very different thing to ragdolling someone from a distance.

Lord Stark is right. Just Dooku and Anakin combined are going to at the very least give Sidious hell. Adding Kenobi is just reducing Sidious's chances of success.

Sids tried to zap Mace with the Force. Unfortunately for him, Vapaad was up to the task and reflected it back. But that's unique to Vapaad, other forms can't do that.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
So I wonder why he didn't just ragdoll Mace Windu with the Force? And no Mace is not > Dooku in TK.

But ragdolling someone in front of you Mid-Saber fight is a very different thing to ragdolling someone from a distance.

Lord Stark is right. Just Dooku and Anakin combined are going to at the very least give Sidious hell. Adding Kenobi is just reducing Sidious's chances of success.

all he needs to do is break off the saberfight for long enough to unleash his Force abilities and this is over. If it was sabers only it would be more fair

Originally posted by WildBantha88
all he needs to do is break off the saberfight for long enough to unleash his Force abilities and this is over. If it was sabers only it would be more fair

So why didn't he just do that with Mace?

Zonakin and Dooku take this; Obi-Wan gets stomped first. Sidious is just wayyyyyyyy out of his league. They're not even in the same sport. Now Kit Fisto, on the other hand...

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Zonakin and Dooku take this; Obi-Wan gets stomped first. Sidious is just wayyyyyyyy out of his league. They're not even in the same sport. Now Kit Fisto, on the other hand...

Finally, someone who understands.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Zonakin and Dooku take this; Obi-Wan gets stomped first. Sidious is just wayyyyyyyy out of his league. They're not even in the same sport. Now Kit Fisto, on the other hand...
Meh, I don't know. Sidious slapped down Anakin hard in Yoda's vision.

And by that merit, Dooku isn't in a good position either. I think in sabers they stand a chance of victory, though Sidious would dispatch Dooku ala Maul if isolated. However if Sidious falls back on the Force, which he will, they will all be dominated.

Obi-Wan gets ragdolled immediately.

Dooku and Anakin have a shot in round one, but the other two are just a horrible stomp.