Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
BG about IM: HE'S FASTER THAN FLASH!😛
Tony MAY be able to accomplish that with Extremis or Thor buster armor but IMO not without leaving his own energy reserves pretty close to if not completely drained.
Originally posted by beatboks
Actually when Booster Debuted in 86 there was no mystery to the Force field belt and ring being in the space museum for Booster to steel. When Booster saved President Reagan he encountered the LoSh who came back to stop him (believing he was the one changing time not the 1,000,000 organization). When they relized Booster had also come back to prevent it, B5 decided that he would have to leave his FF belt and flight ring in the 20th century so that they would be in the space museum in 2050 for Booster to obtain as it was now part of their history.http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Booster_Gold_Vol._1_6-1986.jpg
Then we have the late retcon of Rip (Booster's son) acquiring them.
The thing is while Booster has B5's tech, he doesn't have B5's brain. Some of the things Booster has done (and I love the character) just don't ring true. The guy was a professional athlete from the 25th century yet when fighting the Clones the army made of Doomsday he was technologically savy enough to be able to rewire his force field through his blast projector bracelets and trap and repel the clone??? I mean REALLY, does that sound feasible??? A quarterback from 2050 has the brains to rewire a device made by the greatest mind of the 30th century- Sure
That is why B5 would win and Booster wouldn't. Still it's no stomp, Tony is going to have to earn this win pretty hard
Agree to disagree on the mystery, as what you covered was the reveal.
Agree to disagree on my perception of Booster bias.
Booster and B5 have have matching FFs. Booster has a power suit with more offense than B5 brings to a no prep fight.
B5s being smarter isnt putting him over Booster in this type of fight, any more than Mr. Fantastic would have better odds of beating Spider-man than savage Hulk would, because he's vastly smarter, in a no prep fight.
Yet, put IM against B5, like i did, and all of a sudden IM gets stomped.
Bias.
Edit:
Just to be clear, i dont care much either way about IM winning.
I just find it hella funny how BB and B5 who have the same main weapon, with BB having more to rely on, get perceived.
Had some fun with it.
Originally posted by SamZEDNot really, most of the time I vote for DC characters. The reason I picked IM is IM finds a way to win, BG finds a way to get by. While BG isn't the jobber MM is, were he written to his potential he could easily be a borderline Top Tier instead of a Mid Mid Tier character.
I know little about Booster Gold but have a feeling this is one of those threads where KMC votes for Marvel because Marvel.
Originally posted by riv6672
Agree to disagree on the mystery, as what you covered was the reveal.Agree to disagree on my perception of Booster bias.
Booster and B5 have have matching FFs. Booster has a power suit with more offense than B5 brings to a no prep fight.
B5s being smarter isnt putting him over Booster in this type of fight, any more than Mr. Fantastic would have better odds of beating Spider-man than savage Hulk would, because he's vastly smarter, in a no prep fight.
Yet, put IM against B5, like i did, and all of a sudden IM gets stomped.
Bias.Edit:
Just to be clear, i dont care much either way about IM winning.
I just find it hella funny how BB and B5 who have the same main weapon, with BB having more to rely on, get perceived.
Had some fun with it.
I disagree that Booster brings more to a fight. Yes he has the power suit but Brainy has his belt with weapons too. The thing is IM should be able with Extremis to somehow hack Booster's gear (including Force Field). This would IMO take time. The time ti takes him to do so IMO Brainy would have figured out a way to beat or turn the hack against IM.
It's a close battle in the Booster IM fight as I see it with IM taking the win and a close one (though maybe not as close) in a B5IM fight with B5 taking the win.
It's the fact that B5 has the ability (due to his intellect) to counter the main winning condition that would give IM the win over Booster that makes the difference. I don't see that as bias toward or against either. The lack of prep makes no difference, B5 has been in many impromptu encounters where he has figured out the winning conditions and how to achieve them.
Originally posted by beatboksCool. I very much enjoyed Booster Gold taking on the multiversal Mister Mind and the Rip Hunter parentage reveal.
Actually when Booster Debuted in 86 there was no mystery to the Force field belt and ring being in the space museum for Booster to steel. When Booster saved President Reagan he encountered the LoSh who came back to stop him (believing he was the one changing time not the 1,000,000 organization). When they relized Booster had also come back to prevent it, B5 decided that he would have to leave his FF belt and flight ring in the 20th century so that they would be in the space museum in 2050 for Booster to obtain as it was now part of their history.http://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Booster_Gold_Vol._1_6-1986.jpg
Then we have the late retcon of Rip (Booster's son) acquiring them.
Originally posted by beatboksI recall Booster Gold reminding Blue Beetle that people in his time period were generally much smarter. This was right before Maxwell Lord ended up blowing up Beetle's computer terminal. I mean, 5 centuries would make a lot of difference in general population I.Q.
The thing is while Booster has B5's tech, he doesn't have B5's brain. Some of the things Booster has done (and I love the character) just don't ring true. The guy was a professional athlete from the 25th century yet when fighting the Clones the army made of Doomsday he was technologically savy enough to be able to rewire his force field through his blast projector bracelets and trap and repel the clone??? I mean REALLY, does that sound feasible??? A quarterback from 2050 has the brains to rewire a device made by the greatest mind of the 30th century- SureThat is why B5 would win and Booster wouldn't. Still it's no stomp, Tony is going to have to earn this win pretty hard
Originally posted by ODG
I recall Booster Gold reminding Blue Beetle that people in his time period were generally much smarter. This was right before Maxwell Lord ended up blowing up Beetle's computer terminal. I mean, 5 centuries would make a lot of difference in general population I.Q.
Actually I do recall that now that you mention it. Still one would think that would make brainy's tech even more beyond Booster
Beatbox, B5s main weapon is his FF.
Going on my memory of Legion stories (admittedly out of date), and researching DC info sites, he has almost nothing in the way of offense that doesnt require some prep (again, like Reed. Without prep he's a smart stretchy guy. With, a very dangerous opponent).
Booster simply brings more to a fight than B5. Yet B5 is given a majority over IM. Its simple bias.
Originally posted by riv6672
Beatbox, B5s main weapon is his FF.
Going on my memory of Legion stories (admittedly out of date), and researching DC info sites, he has almost nothing in the way of offense that doesnt require some prep (again, like Reed. Without prep he's a smart stretchy guy. With, a very dangerous opponent).
Booster simply brings more to a fight than B5. Yet B5 is given a majority over IM. Its simple bias.
1. B5wears a type of utility belt. Pre COIE it was slike 60's TV bat's belt and had everything he needed
https://ultraboy8888.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/adv_334_002.png
post Coie it's not cram packed like Batmans (thank god) but it still does have a few weapons.
2. Your making a false assumption that Booster's FF is exactly the same as B5's. It's not.
While the force field that Booster has incorporated into his suit IS that of Brainiac 5 it is not the same by quite a margin. Firstly it doesn't use the same power source as B5's. Remember Booster stole different energy cells from the space museum to power his gear (energy cells of alien origin- for some reason I can't find my copy of that issue for scans ATM). Second Brainy only left a single force field generator behind (to create a FF around Reagan), but his own force field has several. Thirdly Brainy himslef said when he examined the belt (from a time B4 he'd met booster) that it was a "poorly modified version" of his own.
Brainy is able to project force fields around others or use it as a force beam. The only one I know of to have gotten out of that was the Time Trapper.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oCH2B952Ims/VBjhkVkNorI/AAAAAAAARQg/pItHthMI7Ko/s1600/Legion380006.jpg
By Comparison Booster can't use his force field that way. The only time he did required him rewiring it through his blasters during battle.
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Booster%20Gold/scan0007.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3
http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/beatboks01/media/Booster%20Gold/scan0009.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
There is actually quite a bit of difference between the two in actual power level. Remember B5's FF actually allows one to enter the sun eater (a being that can devour a sun). Yet Doomsday can pound on Boosters enough to completely drain the power cells and make it inoperable.
Suneater ability to inflict damage >>>> Doomsday
All good points, i'm grateful for the scans.
I'm still calling bias, as i doubt anyone here is taking the above into account.
I dont have a scan library but i've seen Booster use his FF in many of the ways you've shown B5 doing.
Again, i'm just having fun, but your well thought out Gibbs smack is an unexpected bonus!
