Superboy Prime Vs Juggernaut, slugfest

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, they bfrd him for the win.

Superboy hurt him worse than Black Adam. He's highly resistant to magical based attacks. There's your answer. Prove he was weakened for the krypto thing.

The Teen Titans ko'd him.

Juggernaut wins.

A punch isn't a magic based attack, so your analogy is wrong as per usual. Maybe the magic part of the attack didn't affect him but the strength behind the punch was still there. Superman tier strength.

Read the issue and you'll know why he was weakened.

Lowballing? Really?

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Exactly.

A punch isn't a magic based attack, so your analogy is wrong as per usual. Maybe the magic part of the attack didn't affect him but the strength behind the punch was still there. Superman tier strength.

Read the issue and you'll know why he was weakened.

Lowballing? Really?

His punches had magical energy attached to it. Did you actually read the comic ?

Magical punches. Highly resistant. That's why.

You made it up. Again.

It's canon. Quit avoiding the fact he was physically pummeled by far less than top tier strength. Juggs is going to work him.

Prime.

Originally posted by Surtur
You don't get it, even without the magic added to the hit it is more powerful then any punch Superboy could throw.

The feat shows not only a resistance to magic, but an overall resistance to physical force. There is Class 100 strength behind those punches, whether or not he adds some magic lightning to the punches. In other words, BA can't exploit a weakness to magic to bypass durability, which means he'd need to accomplish it on his attack just being sufficiently potent enough to hurt Prime. It turned out to not be sufficiently potent enough.

So you either believe Superboy hits with force superior to Black Adam or..what?

Again, the point was made. Far less has ko'd him and those punches weren't magical. 2+2=4.

Superboy doesn't possess magical punches therefore prime is less resistant. Black Adam though far more powerful throes magical punches and that's why he can resist them.

Simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bfr is a win. You said they didn't even beat him. Bfr is beating him.

His punches had magical energy attached to it. Did you actually read the comic ?

Magical punches. Highly resistant. That's why.

You made it up. Again.

It's canon. Quit avoiding the fact he was physically pummeled by far less than top tier strength. Juggs is going to work him.

Were his fists magic constructs? No? Then you're wrong.

Earth heroes almost beat him before the sun came out. When the sun touched him he threw them away like old toys. The krypto scene happened before the sun came out.

Read the issue.

Yup, still cannon but a low showing. Not that I expected better from you.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
Bfr is a forum win, it wasn't a forum fight. Do I need to go teacher on you?

Were his fists magic constructs? No? Then you're wrong.

Earth heroes almost beat him before the sun came out. When the sun touched him he threw them away like old toys. The krypto scene happened before the sun came out.

Read the issue.

Yup, still cannon but a low showing. Not that I expected better from you.

Magical energy so I'm right. Read the comic. M

Krypto scene happened in another comic entirely not that one. You're wrong. 🙂

Take your own advice.

It's an objective fact. You saying its a low showing is subjective. Quit running from facts.

It didn't last and just one of them got back. I wouldn't call that a win but then I remember you're like bizarro.

Black adam is made out of magical energy? 😂

Oh, you're talking about that time in infinite crisis?

It's a low showing, if you actually read Prime's appearances you would know it. Come on, go and read.

Originally posted by Reflassshh
It didn't last and just one of them got back. I wouldn't call that a win but then I remember you're like bizarro.

Black adam is made out of magical energy? 😂

Oh, you're talking about that time in infinite crisis?

It's a low showing, if you actually read Prime's appearances you would know it. Come on, go and read.

His punches were magical.

Yes, in which he bled. More proof.

No, you saying low is your opinion. It is an objective fact. It happened. I deal in facts.

Isn't Juggernaut magical as well? Ruby Gem and all that?

So even if BA had magical energy running through his fists (which he does) - surely Juggy has the same?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't Juggernaut magical as well? Ruby Gem and all that?

So even if BA had magical energy running through his fists (which he does) - surely Juggy has the same?

Originally posted by quanchi112
so putting him in a prison wasn't a win ? Wow.

His punches were magical.

Yes, in which he bled. More proof.

No, you saying low is your opinion. It is an objective fact. It happened. I deal in facts.

Yeah, Prime resisted the magic part of the punches. But the strength behind those strikes was still the same, what you're suggesting doesn't make any sense.

Sure, he still wrecked shit later on.

It was a low showing, Prime took it to more powerful teams and was just fine.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Isn't Juggernaut magical as well? Ruby Gem and all that?

So even if BA had magical energy running through his fists (which he does) - surely Juggy has the same?

Juggs won't be able to hurt Prime at all and Prime's punches will ignore the forcefield.

That's the point I'm trying to make - whatever argument one makes for BA, would also apply to Juggy.

Wait a minute. Are we determining that Jugs can't hurt Prime based off ONE showing? Are we forgetting about the other showings where Prime was hurt by either someone on or below Jugs level. The majority of Prime showings.

Originally posted by carver9
Wait a minute. Are we determining that Jugs can't hurt Prime based off ONE showing? Are we forgetting about the other showings where Prime was hurt by either someone on or below Jugs level. The majority of Prime showings.

The majority of MAGIC showings, I think.

We know magic has little effect on Prime.

We know Juggy, is, well, magic.

So I guess the issue is, would he have the same effect of punching him as BA did when punching him - both beings who got their strength/fist durability from magical sources.

Then there's his Mordru showing, and Zauriel's sword (which was made by the Presence) etc...

Originally posted by Surtur
The problem is Prime was hit by people stronger then Superboy and not harmed. Prime was all over the place when it came to durability.

He hit Prime with magically amped punches yes. Black Adam's magically amped punches>>>>Connor Kent punching you one would think.

Or an amped up Daxamite.

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't how it worked. Magical means he is highly resisted due to the resistance to magic.

Again, the point was made. Far less has ko'd him and those punches weren't magical. 2+2=4.

Superboy doesn't possess magical punches therefore prime is less resistant. Black Adam though far more powerful throes magical punches and that's why he can resist them.

Simple.

The punch was enhanced by magic. That was it. Even he had not done that it would of still had force behind it superior to what Superboy can dish out. Since it did have magic added, this just meant it had even more oomph them normal.

This was not a magic missile he fired at him. So do you see the crazy lengths you have to go to in order to make Connor hurting him seem legit?

Also this is moot anyways, we had people of non magical nature who are stronger then Superboy attack Prime and not do anything to him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The majority of MAGIC showings, I think.

We know magic has little effect on Prime.

We know Juggy, is, well, magic.

So I guess the issue is, would he have the same effect of punching him as BA did when punching him - both beings who got their strength/fist durability from magical sources.

Then there's his Mordru showing, and Zauriel's sword (which was made by the Presence) etc...

So Juggernaut punches are magical? Prove it. Would Juggernaut punches have a huge affect on, let's say, Superman?

Prime wins

Originally posted by carver9
So Juggernaut punches are magical? Prove it. Would Juggernaut punches have a huge affect on, let's say, Superman?

Well, I was merely extending the arguments that had been made, with respect to Black Adam.

Juggernaut is NOT a mutant. He does not get his powers from cybernetics, or serums, or alien physiology. Do you know where/how he gets his powers from? Cytorrak.

Do you know who else invokes his power? Strange. Sorceror Supreme.

Do you know what his forcefield is? Hint: It's magical in nature.

His fists?