Originally posted by Angelalex242
Dooku looks down on the corpse, "Mistress Shan spoke so highly of her."But seriously, she didn't even beat ROTJ Luke in another thread. She has no business challenging Dooku.
Except ROTJ Luke used rage to defeat Vader, as has been stated. that other thread is still on-going.
Is putting words in my mouth all you are capable of Carthage? Luke would only beat Sion if he can erode his will, otherwise Luke dies of exhaustion.
Furthermore using sources so old they don't even publish two of them anymore to disprove the newer statements that Vader was overwhelmed and beaten due to Luke's rage and his own holding back is not convincing.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Is putting words in my mouth all you are capable of Carthage? Luke would only beat Sion if he can erode his will, otherwise Luke dies of exhaustion.Furthermore using sources so old they don't even publish two of them anymore to disprove the newer statements that Vader was overwhelmed and beaten due to Luke's rage and his own holding back is not convincing.
Except your own pathetic opinion is worth less than actual sources. Again you have no problem citing outdated sources like the TOTJ or DE handbook, so why the double standard here? Oh wait it doesn't conform to your viewpoint!
Luke would also stomp Sion effortlessly, and nothing in his regen suggests he can regenerate if his body parts are scattered with telekinesis
The DE and TOTJ books haven't been retconned, that is the difference you refuse to acknowledge.
No Carthage, this is the scenario we are challenging you with:
Luke has just fought across the surface of Malachor V whilst killing a dozen storm beasts (worse than Rancors), invaded the Trayus Academy and killed an entire legion of Elite Sith, he hasn't had rest or restoration and he is physically & mentally sickened by the massive geyser of Dark Side energy he is stood on.
Now he has to fight Darth Sion, a Sith Warrior with decades of Jedi killing experience under his belt without some Dark Rage to save him, oh and Sion can't be killed conventially.
Oh and as for your whole cut off his limbs assumption, Sion has been stabbed and sliced with lightsaber blades many times before and it only halts him momentarily.
If he does somehow win this fight he has to fight Darth Traya directly afterwards. Luke assuming he has any energy left at this point probably isn't going to win.
If this was a later incarnation of Luke I wouldn't second guess him being Vader tier at all.
Originally posted by AncientPower
The DE and TOTJ books haven't been retconned, that is the difference you refuse to acknowledge.No Carthage, this is the scenario we are challenging you with:
Luke has just fought across the surface of Malachor V whilst killing a dozen storm beasts (worse than Rancors), invaded the Trayus Academy and killed an entire legion of Elite Sith, he hasn't had rest or restoration and he is physically & mentally sickened by the massive geyser of Dark Side energy he is stood on.
The scenario is irrelevant to the thread, my thread specifically said sabers only and on neutral ground. Try to keep up with my actual OP, ok 👆 Stop writing idiotic fanfics and please stay on topic
Now he has to fight Darth Sion, a Sith Warrior with decades of Jedi killing experience under his belt without some Dark Rage to save him, oh and Sion can't be killed conventially.
Proof he can't be "killed conventionally", nothing in fighting him suggests he can't be dismembered and have his limbs scattered with telekinesis. Or imploded with telekinesis since he has no showings of barrier, or outright ragdolled and dismembered by Luke who is infinitely faster and more skilled
Oh and as for your whole cut off his limbs assumption, Sion has been stabbed and sliced with lightsaber blades many times before and it only halts him momentarily.
Proof?
If he does somehow win this fight he has to fight Darth Traya directly afterwards. Luke assuming he has any energy left at this point probably isn't going to win.
You're scripting the thread lmao. He fought a superior opponent in Vader, beating fodder in whom you've provided no feats for to prove they're more skilled shouldn't be much of an issue. Again I ask what feats do Traya, hordes of fodder Sith, and Sion have in comparison to Vader on the basis of skill and not presumptive fanfics or situations that don't correspond to my op you write that have no bearing on my original posting that is repeated here for you to read:
Originally posted by carthage
*Lightsabers onlyBattle takes place on Jabba's skiff
If this was a later incarnation of Luke I wouldn't second guess him being Vader tier at all.
Given that you haven't actually refuted the quotes from the ROTJ novelization/Shadows of the empire, and I can bring out Fightsaber quotes that substantiate my claim that Luke was his even match- I'll disregard this statement as irrelevant