Originally posted by quanchi112
Whats so hard to grasp ?
Kind of had a brain fart and thought we were talking about the durability of adamantium for a moment, and went on a tangent. (Likely while a bit drunk.. ^_^😉
But basically, in the old Deaths Head 2 comics, a future Wolverine tries stabbing him with his claws, breaks off the tip of one claw, stares at it in wonder and says "Now there's a novelty.."
Because of how time travel works in marvel, that doesn't count for normal adamantium. Even if Logan called it "pure" adamantium, it still wouldn't count, because in Marvel, nobody really time travels.. They dimension hop/universe hop. Think a What If. ALL time travel are What If's in Marvel.
Take The Reigning vs Rock of Ages. In Reigning, it's argued the Thor of that story never existed the moment he rebooted time, and it was an alternate universe Thor that acted in that story, despite Thor himself remembering everything he did. Therefore, nothing in Reigning from the reigning is canon to 616 Thor, even before he gets his Odin powers..
Meanwhile, DC's Rock of Ages featured a future Darkseid taking over the universe, and a future Orion destroying and recreating it back to before Darkseid took the universe over with a genesis box. Both instances are usually treated as very high end feats of the characters, and not dismissed in the same way stories involving future characters in Marvel often are..
So in summory, Logan chipping his adamantium claw doesn't count, because not 616, as by definition 616 is the "present", with even the slightest deviation considered a different universe. But if a future WW broke her lasso....? It "might" count.. Depends on the circumstances, but it wouldn't be dismissed out of hand because of time travel mechanics, at least..
Originally posted by cdtmIf it is canon to the mainstream characters then it counts. If it isn't then it is another character with different experiences. Simple.
Kind of had a brain fart and thought we were talking about the durability of adamantium for a moment, and went on a tangent. (Likely while a bit drunk.. ^_^😉But basically, in the old Deaths Head 2 comics, a future Wolverine tries stabbing him with his claws, breaks off the tip of one claw, stares at it in wonder and says "Now there's a novelty.."
Because of how time travel works in marvel, that doesn't count for normal adamantium. Even if Logan called it "pure" adamantium, it still wouldn't count, because in Marvel, nobody really time travels.. They dimension hop/universe hop. Think a What If. ALL time travel are What If's in Marvel.
Take The Reigning vs Rock of Ages. In Reigning, it's argued the Thor of that story never existed the moment he rebooted time, and it was an alternate universe Thor that acted in that story, despite Thor himself remembering everything he did. Therefore, nothing in Reigning from the reigning is canon to 616 Thor, even before he gets his Odin powers..
Meanwhile, DC's Rock of Ages featured a future Darkseid taking over the universe, and a future Orion destroying and recreating it back to before Darkseid took the universe over with a genesis box. Both instances are usually treated as very high end feats of the characters, and not dismissed in the same way stories involving future characters in Marvel often are..
So in summory, Logan chipping his adamantium claw doesn't count, because not 616, as by definition 616 is the "present", with even the slightest deviation considered a different universe. But if a future WW broke her lasso....? It "might" count.. Depends on the circumstances, but it wouldn't be dismissed out of hand because of time travel mechanics, at least..
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWI went back and checked. Aside from hitting Cap's shield, these are the only other physical blows Thanos delivered during that scene...
Did Thanos amp his fist with the energy (or whatever he's doing), like in the Cap scan?
2.) Killing Vision with a strike to the chest:
...None of which appeared to be 'amped' or 'all-out' strikes.
