Originally posted by leonidas
speed feats? they both have (had) the same access to hermes' speed... 馃槙 ww actually has better displayed speed feats from what i've seen. no one posted speed feats from cap in that adam/ww thread that matched her best ones....travel OR combat.anyway, that's off topic. and i think it's great people are taking diana in this for some reason. i'd just love to SEE proof to support everyone's opinion that diana can take this with purely human stats. not sure where the proof is to support that stance.....
Well, there's this from Cap:
But yeah, I'll admit there's some assumptions based off Supermans feats, and the Shazams supposed status as his equal in every way. While they DO have enough feats of their own to justify their status as heavy hitters, I doubt they'd keep up in a feat war with Supermans highest showings.
Originally posted by Henry_Pym
it happened.People were arguing based off Diana having the edge while sparring.
That's ONE example... Do we just pick and choose now? Is that it?
Originally posted by SquallX
I'll give you that one on the thousand year war.But i disagree on Bruce being more skill and smarter than Diana.
Bruce is smarter in a scientist point of view and being a detective, no more. Diana has the wisdom of Athena to call upon. Unless were claiming that Bruce is smarter than a chick that thrives on knowledge and warfare.
Skills wise, Bruce has nothing on Diana. One of Diana's main point was to be trained by the Amazons, the same Amazons that sends out there own every few yrs to the outside world to learn everything about it. Including everything on Warfare. Diana was trained in all of these aspects. There's no reason Bruce should be more skilled than her.
Remove Pis/Cis, the only thing Bruce has on Diana is
1. Being more cynical
2. Being better in techs.
Wisdom isn't the same as intelligence.
Bruce travelled all over the world, and was trained by the greatest fighters in the world (including Lady Shiva). There's plenty of reason why you could say he's a better fighter than she is.
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Originally posted by -Pr-
That's ONE example... Do we just pick and choose now? Is that it?Wisdom isn't the same as intelligence.
Bruce travelled all over the world, and was trained by the greatest fighters in the world (including Lady Shiva). There's plenty of reason why you could say he's a better fighter than she is.
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Anyway, guys, let's try to get back on topic please. We're all getting off course a little here, so lets try to wind it down asap.
Oh Diana vs Bruce, Bruce wins definately. But that's because the only heavyweight besides Barda who could test her skills is in the LOSH timeline, and against street levelers there's always the question of her stats playing a role.
At best, I'd rank her as competitive with true elites, sort of like a cl100 Shen Kuei.
Who, imo, could beat Castle in pure h2h, based on what I've seen of him (Which id mostly punking out Bullseye and catching Daredevil with a tranc gun. Plus the Az Bat fight, which doesn't count.)