Originally posted by zopzop
Not the Ellis/Hickman Failbrand, which is the current one
(it's entire previous history up to New Universal has been retconned).
It's been stated on panel multiple times that it's nothing more than a 'planetary' defense system.
^^ Interesting B. That does raise questions I'll admit.
Originally posted by Horus1Yeah, but it's only in his immediate area.
Jamie has performed several universal feats. He even pulled the strings of the WHR. (multiversal nexus)
Jamie's future-self (which is 616 Jamie in the future) was an omniversal power.
Originally posted by Horus1But the Ka stones would probably make him "The" reality warper in Marvel. Definitly above MJJ.
^^ Interesting. Although, at best we can surmise it's possibly universal from his description.
Imo, until we see how far this "alteration" (for heralds) goes, there's no way to be certain what he means.
It may be akin to the Quantum Bands, the weapon for would be "universal protectors."
While the Q Bands themselves are far from universal range influence. (as in universal control)
But, Quasar was able to jump across a universe or multiverse in an instant.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOh I'm not saying it's more.
^^ Interesting. Although, at best we can surmise it's possibly universal from his description.
Imo, until we see how far this "alteration" (for heralds) goes, there's no way to be certain what he means.It may be akin to the Quantum Bands, the weapon for would be "universal protectors."
While the Q Bands themselves are far from universal range influence. (as in universal control)
But, Quasar was able to jump across a universe or multiverse in an instant.
I'm just saying it's more important than mere "planetary" would imply. Plus it has to defend a planet important on the universal scale as well.
It's schematics, but it's something.
Plus it outright killed a Beyonder with raw power when it finally ascended/unleashed all its power in a suicide blast, so that's more impressive anyway. Even if it was just a Cube Being level Beyonder.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftI'm just saying it's more important than mere "planetary" would imply.
Plus it has to defend a planet important on the universal scale as well.It's schematics, but it's something.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftPlus it outright killed a Beyonder with raw power when it finally ascended/unleashed all its power in a suicide blast,
so that's more impressive anyway.Even if it was just a Cube Being level Beyonder.
I've heard snippets here and there, but, I wasn't aware it killed a "Cube Being level" entity.
Just curious, how do we know that Beyonder was that powerful?
Or is it the human "kryptonite" plot coming into play here? (I'm out the loop fill me in)
Originally posted by Mr MasterThat kryptonite thing is just zopzop. It's never said in the comic, and it's a twisting of Brevoort's words, which should carry no weight anyway. Hickman never said anything along those lines.
I can agree with this.I haven't gotten around to that read yet good friend.
I've heard snippets here and there, but, I wasn't aware it killed a "Cube Being level" entity.
Just curious, how do we know that Beyonder was that powerful?
Or is it the human "kryptonite" plot coming into play here? (I'm out the loop fill me in)
All that's said is that they were physical iirc at the time. Which made them more vulnerable, or malleable.
But the Cube Being is just me going with "at least". By all implications, it was the abstract killing being as the ones that fought LT. I'm just going with the assumption that we'll get more information in the future and that those Beyonders will be Child Units. If not... then, it's higher.
Which, no matter if it was an incredibly high feat (it was), or an incredibly low feat (it was), it happened. And it's a better feat than Gruenwald ever wrote with his butchering of the Starbrand.
If we go by the assumption that some sort of enlightened form operates at this level, or if it's all its energy released, then it's decidedly above "planetary" labels either way.
srug
