Clintons/Qatar/FIFA

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Clintons/Qatar/FIFA

The Clinton Foundation accepted millions of dollars in connection with the 2022 World Cup in Qatar, a new report finds.

According to The Daily Beast, the Clinton Foundation received between $250,000 and $500,000 from the Qatar 2022 Supreme Committee in 2014 and between $1 million and $5 million from the State of Qatar in prior unknown years.

The donations were made to “prove the effectiveness and affordability of using both solar-powered hybrid cooling applications and converted football training facilities as housing for high-efficiency greenhouse food production in humid climates,” according to the philanthropic organization’s website. “If successful,” the site goes on to say, “the application of this innovative technology will allow for year-round food production and will enable farmers to increase the quality, consistency, and productivity of crops while decreasing the amount of water and energy consumed by agricultural production.”

Bill Clinton was an honorary chairman on the committee bidding for the United States to be the host nation for the 2018 or 2022 World Cups. When the tournaments were awarded to Russia and Qatar respectively, he reportedly broke a mirror in frustration. The Qatari donations might have been a peace offering.

Since the infrastructure for the World Cup started taking shape in Qatar four years ago, as many as 1,200 migrant workers may have died, according to the International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC), and as many as 4,000 more will likely die before the first kickoff seven years from now.

Fourteen officials with FIFA are under investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice for accepting bribes over a 24-year period, BBC News noted. A separate Swiss investigation is being conducted, specificially taking a look at the bids for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

FIFA’s headquarters in Zurich were raided Wednesday and seven officials were taken into custody. FIFA’s president, Sepp Blatter, was not among the charged.

The election for FIFA’s president is set to be held this weekend. Blatter is seeking a fifth term.

Is the Clinton Foundation complicit in the deaths of thousands of migrant workers?

Sources

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/27/corrupt-fifa-has-clinton-foundation-ties-world-cup-host-qatar-gave-millions.html

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/soccer-dirty-tackle/bill-clinton-was-so-angry-when-qatar-was-awarded-the-2022-world-cup-that-he-broke-a-mirror-230144974.html

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-global-initiative/commitments/dedicating-sport-development-food-security

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102708937

Now, lets get this right. That's Queen Clinton. 😉

Where is the righteous liberal crowd?

She's obviously hiding something.
Why d'ya think she releases the emails in an incremental pace? Why doesn't she answer all the questions in front of the press personally?
The answer is the extreme leftists/liberals are afraid of her to mess up. But it seems some info managed to leak through all that skimming and scanning.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
She's obviously hiding something.
Why d'ya think she releases the emails in an incremental pace? Why doesn't she answer all the questions in front of the press personally?

Even CNN is saying shes hiding stuff.

Heh. I thought she was evil before, but this just confirms it.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Even CNN is saying shes hiding stuff.

When a left-leaning journalism channel that supports the democratic party starts questioning your integrity, you know there's something wrong.

Wait, how the heck does A connect to B here? Is the accusation simply that the Clintons' charity accepted donations from FIFA or Qatar? Unless you are showing something shady they did in return, that's a nothing.

TI, the donation from Qatar to the Clinton Foundation was a bandaid to pacify Bill, who'd been a major figure in the US bid for the 2022 world cup and felt like Qatar had stolen the bid (which it had). It's not proof of any involvement in FIFA's corruption on the part of the Clintons, more like proof that they were victims of the corruption and were paid hush money. You can criticize them for accepting that hush money, but that's where it ends--there's simply no evidence that they were involved in the Qatar 22 scandal.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
TI, the donation from Qatar to the Clinton Foundation was a bandaid to pacify Bill, who'd been a major figure in the US bid for the 2022 world cup and felt like Qatar had stolen the bid (which it had). It's not proof of any involvement in FIFA's corruption on the part of the Clintons, more like proof that they were victims of the corruption and were paid hush money. You can criticize them for accepting that hush money, but that's where it ends--there's simply no evidence that they were involved in the Qatar 22 scandal.

Pretty much this. Bill was Not Happy with how things turned out. Qatar doesn't like ex-presidents / potential first spouses being mad at them. If Bill had actual proof of corruption, rather than the suspicion everyone on Earth had, then blowing the whistle would've helped him get what he wanted, a US World Cup.

The bending over backwards to blame everything on the Clintons gets a bit silly. There's a lot of 'boy who cried wolf' syndrome, where most attacks really don't work on them because everyone is so used to them being accused of everything. Being a Clinton near a scandal is not the same as them being involved in it.

Time Immemorial
Where is the righteous liberal crowd?

Eh, who cares? Everyone is bored of people making up Clinton scandals, it doesn't exactly require much debunking, you know?

Wait...

Omega Vision and Q99, explain your reasoning.

So the Clintons are innocent because they took bribe money? Seems pretty clear what took place. There's no conspiracy.

What am I missing?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wait...

Omega Vision and Q99, explain your reasoning.

So the Clintons are innocent because they took bribe money? Seems pretty clear what took place. There's no conspiracy.

What am I missing?


They're innocent of the Qatar Scandal unless new evidence comes forward. The money was almost certainly payment to keep Bill from raising too much of a fuss over the corrupt bid. You could try to claim that Bill was paid to sabotage America's bid, but really there's no evidence of this, and by all appearances the American bid was a solid one simply beat out by the incredible corruption and bribery going on in FIFA on Qatar's behest.

It's like this:

Bill: You stole the vote.
Qatar: Maybe we did, here's lots of money to make you feel better about it.
Bill: Well, okay...

To be clear, I think the Clintons should have turned the money down. I don't think ANY charity should accept ANY money coming out of that corrupt cesspool of a slaver state, but in no way do I see any evidence that the Clintons are somehow implicated in the actual scandal itself.

Again, 'bribe' indicates something was done in return.

This needs an A to B connection for it to be of any note at all. It's not as if the Clintons have ever done anything suspicious in relation to helping FIFA or Qatar.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
They're innocent of the Qatar Scandal unless new evidence comes forward. The money was almost certainly payment to keep Bill from raising too much of a fuss over the corrupt bid. You could try to claim that Bill was paid to sabotage America's bid, but really there's no evidence of this, and by all appearances the American bid was a solid one simply beat out by the incredible corruption and bribery going on in FIFA on Qatar's behest.

It's like this:

Bill: You stole the vote.
Qatar: Maybe we did, here's lots of money to make you feel better about it.
Bill: Well, okay...

To be clear, I think the Clintons should have turned the money down. I don't think ANY charity should accept ANY money coming out of that corrupt cesspool of a slaver state, but in no way do I see any evidence that the Clintons are somehow implicated in the actual scandal itself.

Let's be clear that a bribe definitely includes giving someone money to hush them up.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/bribery

It just so happens that this kind of bribe is not illegal. Still, it is unethical. And it should be obvious why the Clintons don't want to draw attention to this.

Edit - Also, it seems you and Ushgarak are under the assumption (regarding my position) that this situation needs to indicate that the Clintons are part of the FIFA scandal. My comments are not about that, at all. My comments are solely about the Clintons accepting bribe money.

No, my comment is as broad as it gets. This idea that it was 'hush money' makes no logical sense and seems to be based on nothing at all. Again, for it to be a bribe, there has to have been something done in return. There's no connection to be made there at all. I can't even understand the basis of the idea, as if otherwise Clinton was in some way otherwise going to go on a PR campaign against FIFA.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's be clear that a bribe definitely includes giving someone money to hush them up.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/bribery

It just so happens that this kind of bribe is not illegal. Still, it is unethical. And it should be obvious why the Clintons don't want to draw attention to this.

Edit - Also, it seems you and Ushgarak are under the assumption (regarding my position) that this situation needs to indicate that the Clintons are part of the FIFA scandal. My comments are not about that, at all. My comments are solely about the Clintons accepting bribe money.


I don't think we're disagreeing about anything significant, I think you're just being pedantic. Ya goofball, you.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No, my comment is as broad as it gets. This idea that it was 'hush money' makes no logical sense and seems to be based on nothing at all. Again, for it to be a bribe, there has to have been something done in return. There's no connection to be made there at all. I can't even understand the basis of the idea, as if otherwise Clinton was in some way otherwise going to go on a PR campaign against FIFA.

My sources back up my claim.

This is rich.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/29/football/fifa-congress-corruption-case-blatter-election/index.html

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
This is rich.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/29/football/fifa-congress-corruption-case-blatter-election/index.html


Disgusting beyond belief.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Where is the righteous liberal crowd?

It's next to Bill's cigar.