ROTJ Darth Vader vs. Darth Caedus (TK battle)

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ROTJ Darth Vader vs. Darth Caedus (TK battle)

*Canon and legends feats apply to Vader

Round 1: Takes place on Hypori

Round 2: Neutral ground

Caedus.

Vader takes a TK battle.

Caedus

Dear old Granddad is sent to the nursing home by his grandson.

So what TK feats does Caedus have that put him anywhere near Vader's level?

Because it seems people are talking out of their asses...

Probably that shield feat and I think he lifted a ship at one point?

Nothing that surpasses Vader at his best. Moving 140 foot ships, hurling Y wings with a gesture, pinning B wings midflight, thrashing Tsavong Lah, hurling a speeder at Kyle, sending Saba/Jaina flying, and blasting away the rubble of two tunnels offhand.

Oh and sending a Mara flying and moving aside tons of Cargo with a gesture

Originally posted by Nephthys
Probably that shield feat

Which feat?

He blocks turbolasers or something. It's dumb.

It's better than anything Bane ever accomplished 👆

Ah, pretty sure that was force deflect. It's from the Dark Nest novels IIRC.

Originally posted by carthage
Nothing that surpasses Vader at his best. Moving 140 foot ships, hurling Y wings with a gesture, pinning B wings midflight, thrashing Tsavong Lah, hurling a speeder at Kyle, sending Saba/Jaina flying, and blasting away the rubble of two tunnels offhand.

Oh and sending a Mara flying and moving aside tons of Cargo with a gesture


Most of this list is Obi-Wan level, tbh.

Nah it isn't, this is Vader tier stuff. TK ragdolling Jaina/Mara/Kyle is very impressive. Plus going blow-to-blow with Luke at the GM's peak is far from anything Vader did, yes TK was involved in that fight.

He didn't ragdoll them he sent them flying. Granted Mara and Jaina admitted inferiority in the force, and Caedus has scores of other force powers that put him above his grandfather. None of that is very relevant to a TK fight

Originally posted by AncientPower
Nah it isn't, this is Vader tier stuff. TK ragdolling Jaina/Mara/Kyle is very impressive. Plus going blow-to-blow with Luke at the GM's peak is far from anything Vader did, yes TK was involved in that fight.

Like carthage said, sending someone flying isn't ragdolling them, and none of those people are close to Vader level in TK. Also a fight involving TK does not make it a TK fight, so that's really not relevant.

If he can TK GM Luke he can TK Vader.

Anyway TKing heavy starfighters and corvettes is certainly Vader tier.

He smacked him with the Embrace of Pain and a ceiling fixture on top of his from the Anakin Solo. He never directly sent him flying or impacted him with a TK wave

Originally posted by AncientPower
If he can TK GM Luke he can TK Vader.

Well besides saying what carthage said over again, your argument also completely ignores the mindstate Luke was in at the time. It's like saying Obi-Wan is Vader level because he was able to match Anakin's TK on Mustafar.

Anyway TKing heavy starfighters and corvettes is certainly Vader tier.

Indeed, which is why I said most of that list.

Almost every time Luke fights Caedus, he's afraid to cut loose because Caedus murdered his wife, and it's a VERY short hop to the Dark Side when avenging one's wife. Similarly, Ben was in great danger of same due to mommy being murdered.