Darth plageuis vs mace Windu

Battle 1= lightsabers only
battle 2= all out battle

I say plageuis personally

Mace is a more skilled duelist but Plagueis could probably still takes sabers through sheer speed.

All out, Plagueis annihilates him.

Saber- windu stomps. He could use vaapad and if that doesn't work use his knowledge of all seven styles.

Force- plagues

All out- plagues

Vaapad is still a viable form, even if Windu's not amping himself off of darksiders. It's still his primary form, and it was created to suit Windu's mindset. It's basically similar to Juyo, but has battlemind and a bunch of other elements and complexities mixed in. Still an effective style even without the darksider amp.

Plagueis still destroys tbh.

Oh I'm not arguing Windu wins, I'm just addressing that Vaapad is an effective form, regardless of whether or not it's used against a darksider.

Yeah, it would be interesting to see them in a pure sabers fight. I think Plagueis would defeat him in a duel as well.

In a pure saber fight windu demolishes plagues.

Windu takes sabers IMHO.

Plagueis takes all-out.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
In a pure saber fight windu demolishes plagues.

Like he demolished Ventress?

Originally posted by Sinious
Like he demolished Ventress?

Didn't he force her to flee after about 10 seconds

Originally posted by Sinious
Like he demolished Ventress?

TBH I see your point about Plagueis's speed, but he lacks showings to suggest he'll beat Windu.

Obviously he can beat her but someone who failed to demolish Ventress won't be able to demolish Plagueis.

Matching Palpatine was circumstantial and in no way represents his true capabilities but I admit Plagueis lacks the feats.

Originally posted by Sinious
Matching Palpatine was circumstantial and in no way represents his true capabilities but I admit Plagueis lacks the feats.

Anyways, Windu takes sabers 6/10 due to skill, but Plagueis's speed will be very problematic.

Plagueis takes all-out 8-9/10.

The ventress he fought, he briefly dueled her and she ran. Breifly. So yes it might have been a stomp for windu. Also plagues is better than ventress most likely so yea he will last longer but in the end windu will come out the victor.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
The ventress he fought, he briefly dueled her and she ran. Breifly. So yes it might have been a stomp for windu. Also plagues is better than ventress most likely so yea he will last longer but in the end windu will come out the victor.

Hmm from this I take it that you no longer believe Windu would demolish Plagueis in sabers?

Plagueis takes all out 10/10, Mace gets stomped with the Force.

Originally posted by Trocity
Plagueis takes all out 10/10, Mace gets stomped with the Force.

I don't think so.

PALPATINE is able to use the Force to slam MACE against the wall, but he recovers before the Chancellor can cut him down.

Mace's force defenses are unlikely to be overwhelmed by Plagueis' abilities. Unless his lightning is on par with or stronger than ROTS Sidious'

Originally posted by Sinious
Hmm from this I take it that you no longer believe Windu would demolish Plagueis in sabers?

I no longer believe it would be a slaughter house but I wouldn't take a lot of difficulty on maces part.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
I don't think so.

Mace's force defenses are unlikely to be overwhelmed by Plagueis' abilities. Unless his lightning is on par with or stronger than ROTS Sidious'

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Windu should take this.