Grey Hulk vs. Namora

Originally posted by Stoic
So now we move the goal posts instead of being honest? None of what you said had anything to do with what I wrote. The Hulk grows in power as time goes on. This is something that you should know, but then again why not be dishonest? The scans provided in this very thread are proof that the Hulk does not remain at the same level, and I can't believe that i even have to explain this to you. Let's break it down as in as simple a form as possible.

1. Ms. Marvel was beating the crap out of Joe Fixit who had not yet transformed for even five minutes.

2. Wonder man defeats Ms. Marvel.

3. Joe Fixit who had time to ramp up before ever facing the Avengers goes on to not only embarrass Wonder man who was able to defeat Ms. Marvel but also to defeat the entire Avengers with him.

4. This goes to show you that Joe Fixit (the Grey Hulk) does not start out at class 100 at all, but like the handbooks state, he begins at class 70-75. This isn't something very hard to understand, nor is it something that you should deny.

For the record, I think that Fixit would win, but he would be in for a fight. On the other hand Namora, just like Namor could win this, if she went apeshit on him before he reached her level of strength.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He was worse than ko'd - he hasn't made an appearance since shocklaugh See how badly Carol owned him?

Yeah, it would have been better had he reverted back to Bruce Banner when she punched him. 😆

Bruce wakes up seeing stars like "Wha...what just happened?"

Originally posted by Stoic
So now we move the goal posts instead of being honest? None of what you said had anything to do with what I wrote. The Hulk grows in power as time goes on. This is something that you should know, but then again why not be dishonest? The scans provided in this very thread are proof that the Hulk does not remain at the same level, and I can't believe that i even have to explain this to you. Let's break it down as in as simple a form as possible.

1. Ms. Marvel was beating the crap out of Joe Fixit who had not yet transformed for even five minutes.

2. Wonder man defeats Ms. Marvel.

3. Joe Fixit who had time to ramp up before ever facing the Avengers goes on to not only embarrass Wonder man who was able to defeat Ms. Marvel but also to defeat the entire Avengers with him.

4. This goes to show you that Joe Fixit (the Grey Hulk) does not start out at class 100 at all, but like the handbooks state, he begins at class 70-75. This isn't something very hard to understand, nor is it something that you should deny.

For the record, I think that Fixit would win, but he would be in for a fight. On the other hand Namora, just like Namor could win this, if she went apeshit on him before he reached her level of strength.

Show me Fixit prepping before facing the Avengers. I'm going to say this and I'm leaving this topic alone. If you can't apply the same logic you're using for Fixit ta other characters then this debate is pointless.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Fixit prepping before facing the Avengers. I'm going to say this and I'm leaving this topic alone. If you can't apply the same logic you're using for Fixit ta other characters then this debate is pointless.

What logic? Do you even know what you're even talking about? The Hulk ramps up in power. What other characters do this? Are you purposely acting doltish? Does the Hulk grow in power or not? I provided enough proof with the scans that are in this very thread. Do yourself a favor and go back and review them.

Originally posted by Stoic
What logic? Do you even know what you're even talking about? The Hulk ramps up in power. What other characters do this? Are you purposely acting doltish? Does the Hulk grow in power or not? I provided enough proof with the scans that are in this very thread. Do yourself a favor and go back and review them.

This doesn't have a thing to do with ramping up in power. What I'm telling you is you're using Ms. Marvel showing as proof of Hulk's strength when ignoring similar showings with other high end characters. Simple concept. Either accept similar showings for ALL character's or be as hypocrite. Your choice.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Fixit prepping before facing the Avengers. I'm going to say this and I'm leaving this topic alone. If you can't apply the same logic you're using for Fixit ta other characters then this debate is pointless.

I don't know why you'd even say "ta" without the "da". Wasted oppurtunity

Namora didn't fair to we'll against savage Hulk. She's gonna do better against Fixit but she still goes down.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Namora didn't fair to we'll against savage Hulk. She's gonna do better against Fixit but she still goes down.

But Namor has at least two KOs against Hulk and a whole bunch of stalemates. I don't even think Hulk has KO'ed Namor even though he's looked better. Have to check on that one
Even Starlin has wrote Namor to stalemate Savage

The last Hulk/Namor fight I saw Namor was swatted away like a knat.

We all know Classic Hulk doesn't equal current Hulk...at the minimum 10 yrs from today's date. Back in the day everyone and their grandma did good against the Hulk. Doesn't bode well for current characters though. That's like me using classic Thanos showings for his recent depictions.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
The last Hulk/Namor fight I saw Namor was swatted away like a knat.

Originally posted by carver9
We all know Classic Hulk doesn't equal current Hulk...at the minimum 10 yrs from today's date. Back in the day everyone and their grandma did good against the Hulk. Doesn't bode well for current characters though. That's like me using classic Thanos showings for his recent depictions.

No scans but was drawn by Mcguiness iirc.

We seen the depiction of Grey Hulk though and it ain't low end either. Pretty got darn high 'even if the story was based off of classic showings'.

I think it was Hulk #10 where Hulk slaps Namor down.

Originally posted by carver9
We seen the depiction of Grey Hulk though and it ain't low end either. Pretty got darn high 'even if the story was based off of classic showings'.

Trying to play Savage off as weak is a shitty point just because you think Hulk got stronger with the benefit of time. Just because you want to erase any low feats from that era.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I think it was Hulk #10 where Hulk slaps Namor down.

And that was in the full swing of Loebforce Rulk too when Loebforce Hulk was Loebforce Rulk level.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Doesn't matter. He was still weaker than Savage. He wasn't even close to angry enough to debate that either.

Trying to play Savage off as weak is a shitty point just because you think Hulk got stronger with the benefit of time. Just because you want to erase any low feats from that era.

Not brushing off his lows, just saying he has become more powerful over time, and he has whereas Namor has stayed consistent.

Never said Savage was weak by the way, just saying those showings back then doesn't equal anything for today's Hulk, Superman, or whoever else that has grown in power after that era.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
All he does is punch him and hold him down while he reasons to Namor why he needs to help.

And that was in the full swing of Loebforce Rulk too when Loebforce Hulk was Loebforce Rulk level.

Think it was more than that.

Originally posted by carver9
Not brushing off his lows, just saying he has become more powerful over time, and he has whereas Namor has stayed consistent.

Never said Savage was weak by the way, just saying those showings back then doesn't equal anything for today's Hulk, Superman, or whoever else that has grown in power after that era.

So... completely irrelevant to Grey Hulk is what you're saying?

Also lol at you lowering Savage to a level that doesn't equal anything to Superman considering... your entire posting history. I don't even know anymore with you Carver.

Originally posted by carver9
Think it was more than that.

http://i58.tinypic.com/2hmk605.jpg

I don't get how that means anything.