TFU Shaak Ti vs. Darth Zannah (lightsabers only)

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TFU Shaak Ti vs. Darth Zannah (lightsabers only)

Round 1: Pure sabers

Round 2: Telekinesis is allowed

Battle takes place in the cave of the Aing Tii

Shaak Ti wins.

Physically Ti is far faster, she has demonstrated greater strength and durability as well.

She also has greater experience and mastery of lightsaber combat and was almost good enough to kill a near prime Galen Marek. Her mastery over Form II: Makashi should certainly be crucial against Zannah's Form III: Soresu.

In telekinesis there is essentially no contest here, Ti's tk has effortlessly smashed droids, taken down Galen Marek and held back ocean levels of water.

mmm

Originally posted by AncientPower
Shaak Ti wins.

Physically Ti is far faster, she has demonstrated greater strength and durability as well.

She also has greater experience and mastery of lightsaber combat and was almost good enough to kill a near prime Galen Marek. Her mastery over Form II: Makashi should certainly be crucial against Zannah's Form III: Soresu.

In telekinesis there is essentially no contest here, Ti's tk has effortlessly smashed droids, taken down Galen Marek and held back ocean levels of water.

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In pure sabers Zannah also has very little offensive power, certainly nothing that could overcome Ti.

Originally posted by Champion of L
Zannah defended well against Bane, whose lightsaber skill (possibly) and command of the Force (certainly and especially) transcends those of Ti's. I'm inclined to say she could repeat a similar performance against her as she did against Bane and eventually find a flaw in Shaak's technique.

Shaak Ti has taken on a dozen Magnaguards simultaneously. Shaak Ti has taken on Galen Marek whom was trained secretly by Darth Vader to be able to contend with Darth Sidious himself nevermind a Jedi High Council member and she schooled the boy. By this point Galen's training was near completion and his skills were already almost perfect.

What has Bane done in pure sabers that compares to that? oh I know:
Get his ass kicked as soon as Kas' im brought out Jar'kai, lol.
Barely survive Raskta Lsu's onslaught despite orbalisks, rage and nexus advantages, lol.
Beat his own apprentice, again lol.

Truly the most fearsome duelist in the mythos. Luke, Caedus, Sidious and Yoda must be shaking in their collective boots.

Shaak Ti's technique is a hybrid of Makashi and Ataru and is designed for finding flaws in an opponent's form. This all also assumes Zannah is even capable of keeping up with Shaak Ti in combat.

On the magnaguard subject, those two that fought Kenobi and Skywalker on the invisible hand were among those facing Shaak Ti. Since Kenobi nearly died to his, it's pretty obvious they weren't bad at all.

Regarding the Galen fight, since she had multiple occasions to kill him in the Graphic Novel that she chose not to, it's pretty obvious they were pretty even. And it was not a Light Side Nexus.

Originally posted by Selenial
Nothing amazingly concrete, I mean he's got the Juyo mastery confirmed which means we can wank him via Fightsaber, but his Arena feat was pretty damn impressive.

He also was beaten due to moreso fatigue against Galen rather than being overpowered by his sabers or force use.

One cannot be a master of a form and be a poor wielder of it.

Mastery denotes knowledge as well as the skill to apply it.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
You can't pick and choose what quotes you think apply to which I'm afraid, a valid argument could be made they don't apply to the portrayal of magnaguards in Canon, but this is Legends, and there exists no official basis for saying they don't apply to a Legends source.

I like this one, since it's actually one of the Magnaguards Ti faced:

Let his MagnaGuards fight the Jedi; that's what they were designed for—and they were doing their jobs well. IG-101 had pressed Kenobi back against a console, lightning blazing from his electrostaff's energy shield where it pushed on Kenobi's blade; the Jedi general might have died then and there, except that one of the simple-minded super battle droids turned both arm cannons on his back, giving Kenobi the chance to duck and allow the hammering blaster bolts to slam 101 stumbling backward.

Sexy tbh.

And let's be frank, if anything OCW will overhype the abilities of magnaguards.

Originally posted by Selenial
I like this one, since it's actually one of the Magnaguards Ti faced

Source/Quote?

? When did Ti ever fight IG-101? Though to be honest, how does it even matter? 101 is still a Magnaguard with all the same abilities, heck it's even noted as such. The only reason 101 and 102 are even noted is because of their appearance.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Source/Quote?

ROTS Novel?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
? When did Ti ever fight IG-101? Though to be honest, how does it even matter? 101 is still a Magnaguard with all the same abilities, heck it's even noted as such. The only reason 101 and 102 are even noted is because of their appearance.

Well the magnaguards varied in skill, that's why it matters. Though even then, it doesn't, since the 12 she faced were the twelve best Magnaguards in the galaxy, Grievous picked them because of that fact.

Originally posted by Selenial
Well the magnaguards varied in skill, that's why it matters. Though even then, it doesn't, since the 12 she faced were the twelve best Magnaguards in the galaxy, Grievous picked them because of that fact.

Where is it noted they varied in skill melee wise?

Also where is it noted that Grevious picked 12 of the best Magnaguards?

Originally posted by Zenwolf
Where is it noted they varied in skill melee wise?

Also where is it noted that Grevious picked 12 of the best Magnaguards?

"A dozen Magnaguards, hand-picked by Grievous, help abduct Palpatine."

This whole magnaguard topic was addressed in the Respect Thread people 😉

Originally posted by Selenial
This whole magnaguard topic was addressed in the Respect Thread people 😉

That doesn't really say anything, he just picked a dozen Magnaguards, there wasn't anything special/different about them.

For Shaak Ti supporters, here's some more Galen Marek hype:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111155790/4599870-galen.png

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11115/111155790/4599874-galen+2.png

Originally posted by Zenwolf
That doesn't really say anything, he just picked a dozen Magnaguards, there wasn't anything special/different about them.

So you're saying grievous would hand-pick magnaguards with absolutely no rhyme or reason for the most important mission he ever faced?

Originally posted by Selenial
So you're saying grievous would [B]hand-pick magnaguards with absolutely no rhyme or reason for the most important mission he ever faced? [/B]

Right, there's nothing indicating that the Mangaguards picked were any different then the regular ones. Plus considering, who says the hand picked just meant he picked them over other battle droids from the CIS?...

There's no evidence that the Magnaguards were any different than others, they are all of the same design, with the same capabilities, so on and so forth.

It also doesn't matter, because it's not like it takes away from Ti's feat.