Create a strike team to defeat FotJ Luke, DE Sidious and Prime Yoda.

Started by Angelalex2423 pages

He certainly was. He was managing the entire Imperial Fleet from the second death star. They basically fell apart when he died, making them easy pickings for the rebels.

He wasn't, there was another guy using BM in that battle: Nial Declann

There were quotes in the Thrawn trilogy that states he was using the force to support his forces during the Battle of Endor.

I'm looking for them now.

"You must have wondered how a few dozen Rebel ships could possibly rout an Imperial force that outgunned it by at least ten to one… The Rebels did indeed fight better, but not because of any special abilities or training. They fought better than the fleet because the Emperor was dead… you must have noticed it. The sudden loss of coordination between crew members and ships; the loss of efficiency and discipline. The loss, in short, of that elusive quality we call fighting spirit… You had no real fighting spirit of your own anymore—none of you in the Imperial fleet did. It was the Emperor's will that drove you; the Emperor's mind that provided you with strength and resolve and efficiency. You were as dependent on that presence as if you were all borg-implanted into a combat computer."
―Thrawn to Pellaeon

Thrawn Trilogy predates the creation of Nial Declann.

Also Thrawn could just be wrong and not know that Declann was doing it for Palpatine.

The Emperor it had long been rumored had the ability to use the force to exercise direct control over his military forces. If the Jedi Master Luke had confronted on Jomark had the same ability

pg 21. The Last Command.

There are a few others in Heir to the Empire where he makes more direct mentions, DMB quoted one of them but I think there are like two more.

There seem to be more quotes in favor of Sidious then there are in favor of some guy they made up one day cause they thought Sidious was OP.

Some guy for a video game lol

Originally posted by Angelalex242
There seem to be more quotes in favor of Sidious then there are in favor of some guy they made up one day cause they thought Sidious was OP.

Not really. Sidious had BM, sure, but he wasn't using it at Endor. Thrawns opinion doesn't trump facts.

Not sure why this even matters. There's a huge difference between using BM while actively engaged in combat and using BM when sitting on a throne monologueing, walking laughing, or electrocuting Luke with not full power force lightning.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not really. Sidious had BM, sure, but he wasn't using it at Endor. Thrawns opinion doesn't trump facts.

So you have no proof that he wasn't using it and think your opinion trumps canon. Ok makes sense 👆

If Sidious was a TOR character, he would have been BMing the shit out of the Battle of Endor.

Originally posted by Nephthys
He wasn't, there was another guy using BM in that battle: Nial Declann

As he had maintained all along, Shimrra's death, recently reported by Kenth Hamner, had had no discernable effect on the enemy commanders or pilots. At the climactic battle of the Galactic Civil War, Imperial forces appeared to have been thrown into disarray by the death of Emperor Palpatine. But Shimrra was scarcely a Sith Master, capable of using his powers of battle meditation to invigorate his troops.

--The Unifying Force

I'm not sure if Declann was made after TUF or not, but there's another Palps BM quote I found.

I know Palps has BM. He wasn't using it at Endor though. Palps death threw the forces into disarray becuase Declann freaked out at that point.

Proof?