Ares vs Namor

Started by tkitna4 pages
Originally posted by zopzop
Because Namor already beat the sh|t out of him on at least two different occasions on panel.

I understand that, but what drugs were those two writers on at the time?

Originally posted by zopzop

On one occasion Ares had Sentry and Wonderman backing him up.
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Are we to believe that Ares, Sentry, and Wonderman cant take Namor? Ares would lose a majority but Namor would work for it. I'd give Simon a split. Namor was practically powerless against Sentry when Bob was the slightest bit pissed off. Combine all three and Namor dies in one panel.

This is like a Golgo spite thread, except if Golgo had made a thread with people who had actually already fought.

Worst thread ever.

Originally posted by carver9
But was scared to fight WWH, something that Ares did.

Namor wasn't scared.

Ares got one-shotted by WWH and two-shotted by Savage...

Originally posted by tkitna
Are we to believe that Ares, Sentry, and Wonderman cant take Namor? Ares would lose a majority but Namor would work for it. I'd give Simon a split. Namor was practically powerless against Sentry when Bob was the slightest bit pissed off. Combine all three and Namor dies in one panel.

That was sentry going void that namor faced,emma frost later contained void allowing bob to leave,and he did pretty well actually,no injuries whatsoever. Sentry has been oneshotted by herc before,so his power is here and there. Namor fought wonderman and ares together,he faced sentry before he faced those two,he beat the shit out of wondy and ares. Its not like wondy is in his league,the dude nearly broke his back balancing hydrobase even with help from sue

Originally posted by tkitna
Are we to believe that Ares, Sentry, and Wonderman cant take Namor? Ares would lose a majority but Namor would work for it. I'd give Simon a split. Namor was practically powerless against Sentry when Bob was the slightest bit pissed off. Combine all three and Namor dies in one panel.
During the Utopia fight between Namor and Sentry Namor was clearly outgunned. In almost every panel he was getting his sh!t pushed in. Anyone who believes Namor can logically fight the likes of Ares, Wonderman, and Sentry at the same time should not be taken seriously.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Namor.

Ares...such wasted potential....

This.

Ares simply has no advantages over Namor.

Originally posted by tkitna
Are we to believe that Ares, Sentry, and Wonderman cant take Namor? Ares would lose a majority but Namor would work for it. I'd give Simon a split. Namor was practically powerless against Sentry when Bob was the slightest bit pissed off. Combine all three and Namor dies in one panel.

Except it happened and not only didn't Namor die, he held his own.

Stop acting like Sentry operates at 100% all the time. His power fluctuates with his emotional state. Hercules has tooled a non stable Sentry and Sentry had help from Venom and crew during that fight.

Hammond Torch caused him to have a meltdown.

Etc..

Originally posted by zopzop
Except it happened and not only didn't Namor die, he held his own.

Stop acting like Sentry operates at 100% all the time. His power fluctuates with his emotional state. Hercules has tooled a non stable Sentry and Sentry had help from Venom and crew during that fight.

Hammond Torch caused him to have a meltdown.

Etc..

You say tooled as if it was a beatdown or something. Herc just grabbed his cape and flung Robert about the place. I mean it wasn't anything special or anything.

With you on Hammond though.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
You say tooled as if it was a beatdown or something. Herc just grabbed his cape and flung Robert about the place. I mean it wasn't anything special or anything.

No I mean tooled as in "made a fool of". Because that's what he did. Grabbing his cape and flinging him around, grabbing his punch, kicking him in the nuts all the while being harassed and attacked by Venom.

But I don't hold it against Sentry because when he's not mentally stable he tends to fail at life. I'm just responding to tkina because he acted like the Namor vs WM/Sentry/Ares incident was something PIS fueled to make Namor look good.

Originally posted by zopzop
No I mean tooled as in "made a fool of". Because that's what he did. Grabbing his cape and flinging him around, grabbing his punch, kicking him in the nuts all the while being harassed and attacked by Venom.

But I don't hold it against Sentry because when he's not mentally stable he tends to fail at life. I'm just responding to tkina because he acted like the Namor vs WM/Sentry/Ares incident was something PIS fueled to make Namor look good.

Ah okay I get you then. Thanks for the clarification.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Ah okay I get you then. Thanks for the clarification.

I fully understand that Namor, Hercules, Ares, etc.. are not in Sentry's class at all (even without the Void or Void influence) if Sentry is even half way in his right mind.

A stable Sentry is a legit High Herald (minimum) and at least three Tiers above the characters I mentioned in my first sentence.

Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
You say tooled as if it was a beatdown or something. Herc just grabbed his cape and flung Robert about the place. I mean it wasn't anything special or anything.

In Civil War, Herc and Hulkling one-shotted Sentry 😉 At least that's what it looked like.

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Back on topic - Namor was always Marvel's top dog. The opposite of Ares, who was an underachiever.

Strength-wise, Namor dominates Ares. Both feat-wise and handbook-wise, since he's been wearing that suit that keeps him hydrated. Ares, on the other hand, dropped those str-boosting Gauntlets of his.

Durability - no contest. Namor is 100% bulletproof, Ares is not.

Healing - some would say Ares has the advantage here, but honestly, looking at the feats, it's too close to call.

Fighting skills - Ares wins only according to handbooks. In the books, nothing suggests Ares is Namor's superior in that department. Remember, Namor is the guy who considers judo primitive...

Originally posted by zopzop
I fully understand that Namor, Hercules, Ares, etc.. are not in Sentry's class at all (even without the Void or Void influence) if Sentry is even half way in his right mind.

A stable Sentry is a legit High Herald (minimum) and at least three Tiers above the characters I mentioned in my first sentence.

Yeah, Basket-case Sentry was afraid of fighting Black Bolt because of the possible repercussions and Iron Man took out Sentry by turning Cloc against him.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
In Civil War, Herc and Hulkling one-shotted Sentry 😉 At least that's what it looked like.
It's pretty hard to discern exactly what happened to Sentry after they punched him:

As ^^that was his only showing in the comic.

But I suppose you could argue that he may have been KO'd, based on the fact that he wasn't seen again for the rest of the issue... mmm

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As for his fight with Hercules:

Several pages later:

It may have been cheap, but Hercules came away with the solid win, I'd say. /shrug

Gargan Venom had a solid showing there also.

Only in your eyes, juggs. Gargan was useless.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Only in your eyes, juggs. Gargan was useless.
His body was absorbing those smashes and Hercules still couldn't shake him.