Farmers vs Fish

Started by Time Immemorial2 pages

Originally posted by Surtur
How are they feeding us by sending it to China?

So why not find one not as water costly?

We don't eat hay last time I checked.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Funny thing, the farmers feed you. But when you run out of food. I guess it will be their fault too.

You still cant explain your natural order of things. of dumping 1.7 trillion gallons of fresh water in the ocean to help these bait fish.

Then again, those fish seem pretty important to you then 50% of the the food in America, and all you can say is "oh its the pistachio's, blame the farmers."


Again from what I understand (and there's a chance there's a critical step of this process I've somehow failed to grasp, because that happens sometimes), we're talking about river water flowing out into the sea through wetlands. If that's what's happening, that is a natural state and it doesn't count as "dumping" water but rather as "letting it flow."

I don't care about the fish as much as I care about the wetlands. The fish can rot for all I care, but California's wetlands are disappearing rapidly.

And I understand that Californian farmers produce a lot of food, but some crops are more important than others, and that 50% of all our food that you keep touting won't last if farmers continue to squander water on unnecessary and inefficient cash crops like hay, pistachios, almonds, and walnuts.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
We don't eat hay last time I checked.

Obviously. The point is that water could be used for OTHER CROPS.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
We don't eat hay last time I checked.

So then they aren't just feeding us, but cattle on another continent. They probably shouldn't be doing the fish thing or the hay thing. That January 2013 picture of Cali alongside one from 2014 is pretty depressing. It looks like somebody cast a life drain spell from orbit.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Again from what I understand (and there's a chance there's a critical step of this process I've somehow failed to grasp, because that happens sometimes), we're talking about river water flowing out into the sea through wetlands. If that's what's happening, that is a natural state and it doesn't count as "dumping" water but rather as "letting it flow."

I don't care about the fish as much as I care about the wetlands. The fish can rot for all I care, but California's wetlands are disappearing rapidly.

And I understand that Californian farmers produce a lot of food, but some crops are more important than others, and that 50% of all our food that you keep touting won't last if farmers continue to squander water on unnecessary and inefficient cash crops like hay, pistachios, almonds, and walnuts.

Obviously. The point is that water could be used for OTHER CROPS.

Yea you don't understand, truly. Since they have decided to shut off how much the farmers can take in order to increase the flow for the non native bait fish.

Completely idiotic.

Cry all you want about wetlands too. California has had them disappearing for years because of climate, not less fresh water going into the ocean.

This isn't hard to understand.

Originally posted by Surtur
So then they aren't just feeding us, but cattle on another continent. They probably shouldn't be doing the fish thing or the hay thing. That January 2013 picture of Cali alongside one from 2014 is pretty depressing. It looks like somebody cast a life drain spell from orbit.

Here, this is what all the big deal is. You tell me thats worthy of this nonsense.

I don't think the fish thing is worth it. On the other hand they should at least try to limit the amount of water they are using for things sent overseas.

This article I've just read suggests the real problem is California's wacky water laws which are based more on historical than present conditions.

http://www.vox.com/2015/4/14/8407155/almonds-california-drought-water

Good article.

A problem people will not address is why they haven ot built any new above ground reservoirs in almost 40 years.

Not one.

And this Delta Smelt is a abomination wasted almost 2 trillion gallons of water.

California always had wack laws.

Originally posted by AsbestosFlaygon
California always had wack laws.

Yup, the laws directly represent the wacko's in charge.

I don't know, numbering lanes to determine how fast cars are supposed to go has apparently worked well for controlling traffic.

Lol really?

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lol really?

That's what I've heard. I haven't driven on such roads, but apparently some highways are numbered 1-4 or 1-3 and the further right you are the higher the number and the slower you're supposed to go and vice versa. Basically the same as everywhere else, except the numbers serve as constant reminders.

Lived in Cali most of my life and have never seen this tbh.

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Lived in Cali most of my life and have never seen this tbh.

http://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/hdbk/traffic_lanes

It might just be for certain freeways. Do you still live in Cali? Where at?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/wcm/connect/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/hdbk/traffic_lanes

It might just be for certain freeways. Do you still live in Cali? Where at?

SD, this isn't anything groundbreaking though. Confused why we are talking about this. 🙄

Originally posted by Time Immemorial
Here, this is what all the big deal is. You tell me thats worthy of this nonsense.

No, that is not worth your nonsense. 😛