Originally posted by juggerman
Hmmm interesting thought: Can Hal lift the hammer if he creates a willpower hand or maybe even a robot? This is because if Vision could maybe Hal's creation could as well
Nah, Hal's constructs are still driven by his will power and his intentions. I doubt Hal is worthy so his constructs probably aren't as well.
Originally posted by juggerman
Are you serious right now? All the evidence is in the movie. Did you watch the movie? Hal can create things. He has created things. To assume he can all of a sudden not create things is dumb as hell. Don’t be dumb.You on the other hand want to ignore actual things that happened in the movie in favor of your fanboyish ideas like Hulk’s thunderclap sending someone to another planet 😂
Did you pay any attention to Avengers? Like at all? Do you know what a wormhole even is? The two ends of the wormhole were within Earth’s atmosphere and in space near where the army was. Ironman when thru the wormhole and it dumped him in space. It was as clear as day. I’m starting to feel as tho I shouldn’t even waste my time here since it doesn’t seem like you can grasp simple points.
Onscreen evidence backs up everything I’ve said. You? Not so much. You just make things up it seems
We don’t just go solely on what we see tho. We have to implement some common sense too. I’ll give you an example. Hal made a fist and two jets right? So common sense would tell us he is capable of making two fists and one jet. Even tho we didn’t see it, we know he can do it. You’re just playing the “Nope we need to see everything for it to happen” game and unfortunately it doesn’t work that way.
You mean like all the evidence I’ve given already? Just let it go
Tell me something, does Tony Stark poop? He must not since we’ve never seen it right?
Maybe if you actually watch the movie you’ll see the light
for some reason kmc is fracking up oh well.. anyway...
there is no evidence in the movie, if so where, fine the scene(s) on youtube.. you are the one who is dumb... just because Hal can create things HE STILL HAS GOT TO BE SHOWN TO CREATE THEM AND THEN USE THEM so please once again find the MFin scene(s) on youtube.. lmfao @you.. you should have realized I was making fun of you when you said you can assume.. well guess the frack what son I can assume shit too deal with it, but yes Hulk thunderclap is in play i do believe so Hal goes bye bye several feet away..
I can grasp every god damn mfin point.. you are the one that do not know what a wormhole is?? and clearly as i have watched avengers 10 or more times clearly a wormhole and outer space are not the same..
this is from space.com concerning what a wormhole actually ius, hope you know how to read... http://www.space.com/20881-wormholes.html
please what onscreen evidence,.. All you doing is guess what and assumption and then crying because you seem to think that by assuming shit you do not have to prove it.. so once again grasp this ,,... Prove that Hal can create what you are assuming since well you know Hal was never ever shown too.. Do we not still go by onscreen feats or are you another quan????
why the frack do you think i used common sense when i said that thor, iron man and hulk can survive outer space since we were clearly shown in age of ultron the avenger spaceship in well that what we call outer space.. so please tell how exactly did they go from outer space to the outskirts of Strucker's hideout?? I truly, truly hope you have a valid reason...
Let what go?? you have given no evidence.. so again stop assuming and give some actual evidence based on what you saw in Green Lantern
I've no idea, you the one who likes to make assumptions and then claim I am the only one who can.... remember you are not the only person who can assumptions... also remember to give some facts from the film which you have not...
once again tell me how exactly will hal defend against being hit by mjolnir ? how does hal defend agaisnt thor's lightning? being one shotted by hulk, unless you gonna claim he didn't one shot the leviathan???
I have watched the film.. It was shit... i remember all of Hal's feats and none can stop Thor's hammer or lightning.. Nor can Hal's constructs stop Hulk...
Truthfully, more I thank about this the more this fight does not go in favor of Thor.
In the first Avengers when Thor was held in that box made for the Hulk, he should have been able to fly and keep the box from falling. The crash should have done nothing to him if it did crash and he should have been able to break through at any time.
Instead we had a Thor being thrown around and barely escaping through glass what seem to be death for him. Avengers being a good movie covers over those ridiculous feats they gave Thor in the movies.
Originally posted by Kotor3
Truthfully, more I thank about this the more this fight does not go in favor of Thor.In the first Avengers when Thor was held in that box made for the Hulk, he should have been able to fly and keep the box from falling. The crash should have done nothing to him if it did crash and he should have been able to break through at any time.
Instead we had a Thor being thrown around and barely escaping through glass what seem to be death for him. Avengers being a good movie covers over those ridiculous feats they gave Thor in the movies.
The box was designed to contain Hulk, who is portrayed to be equal/slightly superior to Thor in strength in the movie continuity. No wonder it contained Thor too.
Secondly, I don't think if he hit the ground in the box it would have killed him tbh. Thor did survive Bifrost explosion and the city explosion in AoU. The escape from the box seemed to be adding tension and dramatic effect.
Originally posted by StigmaSo was the box that Stark designed in Avengers Two and the Hulk escape that pretty easy.
TBH I don't see your point.The box was designed to contain Hulk, who is portrayed to be equal/slightly superior to Thor in strength in the movie continuity. No wonder it contained Thor too.
Secondly, I don't think if he hit the ground in the box it would have killed him tbh. Thor did survive Bifrost explosion and the city explosion in AoU. The escape from the box seemed to be adding tension and dramatic effect.
The point is no one truly knows the extent of the Hulk's strength or that of Thor. So the box was designed yes with what they thought could contain the Hulk. It is not like Bruce Banner designed the box himself.
As I stated previously Thor can fly. He really was in no danger and should not have been displayed as being in any danger. They are not consistent with Thor in the way he is displayed.
Thor being part of the Avengers should be the same as Superman being part of the Justice League, it should make the Avengers almost invincible. That is not how they display Thor in movies.
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
for some reason kmc is fracking up oh well.. anyway...there is no evidence in the movie, if so where, fine the scene(s) on youtube.. you are the one who is dumb... just because Hal can create things [b]HE STILL HAS GOT TO BE SHOWN TO CREATE THEM AND THEN USE THEM
so please once again find the MFin scene(s) on youtube.. lmfao @you.. you should have realized I was making fun of you when you said you can assume.. well guess the frack what son I can assume shit too deal with it, but yes Hulk thunderclap is in play i do believe so Hal goes bye bye several feet away..I can grasp every god damn mfin point.. you are the one that do not know what a wormhole is?? and clearly as i have watched avengers 10 or more times clearly a wormhole and outer space are not the same..
this is from space.com concerning what a wormhole actually ius, hope you know how to read... http://www.space.com/20881-wormholes.html
please what onscreen evidence,.. All you doing is guess what and assumption and then crying because you seem to think that by assuming shit you do not have to prove it.. so once again grasp this ,,... Prove that Hal can create what you are assuming since well you know Hal was never ever shown too.. Do we not still go by onscreen feats or are you another quan????
why the frack do you think i used common sense when i said that thor, iron man and hulk can survive outer space since we were clearly shown in age of ultron the avenger spaceship in well that what we call outer space.. so please tell how exactly did they go from outer space to the outskirts of Strucker's hideout?? I truly, truly hope you have a valid reason...
Let what go?? you have given no evidence.. so again stop assuming and give some actual evidence based on what you saw in Green Lantern
I've no idea, you the one who likes to make assumptions and then claim I am the only one who can.... remember you are not the only person who can assumptions... also remember to give some facts from the film which you have not...
once again tell me how exactly will hal defend against being hit by mjolnir ? how does hal defend agaisnt thor's lightning? being one shotted by hulk, unless you gonna claim he didn't one shot the leviathan???
I have watched the film.. It was shit... i remember all of Hal's feats and none can stop Thor's hammer or lightning.. Nor can Hal's constructs stop Hulk... [/B]
Ok this is just too much stupidity for me to handle right now. Please bear with me since I can only deal with a limited amount of ignorance at any given time.
Let's focus now on your clear misunderstanding of how a wormhole works. Did you see X-Men days of Future Past? In it you see Blink opening up portals and once you step thru the portal, you are somewhere else entirely. That is exactluy how the wormhole(or portal) worked in Avengers. The two openings were on Earth and deep in space. If you went into it from one end, you were let out on the other end. It's this way is several other forms of media as well in case you didn't see DoFP btw.
Any way the point is, you seem to be under the impression that the army was waiting within some pocket dimension within the wormhole and that's where Tony went. This is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. They even say in the movie that it opens a portal to the other side of space. That's not a direct quote mind you.
Here is a description from the wiki in case you'd like to look for yourself:
The Tesseract is an Infinity Stone, representing the fabric of space. If used correctly, the Tesseract can open gateways to any part of the universe, and it is presumable that it grants omnipresence when used at full potential.
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Tesseract
As you can see it opens gateways! That particular gateway was to an area in SPACE where the army was waiting to invade.
You're welcome
Originally posted by juggerman
Ok this is just too much stupidity for me to handle right now. Please bear with me since I can only deal with a limited amount of ignorance at any given time.Let's focus now on your clear misunderstanding of how a wormhole works. Did you see X-Men days of Future Past? In it you see Blink opening up portals and once you step thru the portal, you are somewhere else entirely. That is exactluy how the wormhole(or portal) worked in Avengers. The two openings were on Earth and deep in space. If you went into it from one end, you were let out on the other end. It's this way is several other forms of media as well in case you didn't see DoFP btw.
Any way the point is, you seem to be under the impression that the army was waiting within some pocket dimension within the wormhole and that's where Tony went. This is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. They even say in the movie that it opens a portal to the other side of space. That's not a direct quote mind you.
Here is a description from the wiki in case you'd like to look for yourself:
http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/Tesseract
As you can see it opens gateways! That particular gateway was to an area in SPACE where the army was waiting to invade.
You're welcome
i know exactly how wormholes work .. you have been the one who has stated that wormholes and outer space are one and the same
anyway i am done.. we just have to agree to disagree because this thread shouldn't have to go 50 million pages...
this is my last post for a little bit lol.. off to play batman arkham knight
Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
i know exactly how wormholes work .. you have been the one who has stated that wormholes and outer space are one and the sameanyway i am done.. we just have to agree to disagree because this thread shouldn't have to go 50 million pages...
this is my last post for a little bit lol.. off to play batman arkham knight
You clearly don't. I never said they were the same. The wormhole led to space. Wormhole=portal and space was on the other end.
We can agree to disagree 👆
Have fun!
Sorry to bump this since nobody had fun here but I was searching thru the guide on tv yesterday and my son saw that Green Lantern was on. Normally I would shatter his hopes since the movie was atrocious but he wasn't feeling very well so I decided to be nice and put it on. SOOOOOO BAAADDDDDD!!!
But I did realise I forgot a ton of GL feats. The man created a fully functional flamethrower that shot actual flames. Not like green willpower flames. Real freaking flames. That means he was able to not only make the weapon so accurately that it worked as it should, but he was also able to "will" chemicals into existance that were combustable.
Same with the jets. They had actual flames shooting out. The implications of that are crazy. And the flames were in space!!! He also saved Amanda Waller by creating water and wooshing her out of the room like a water slide. It was nuts. So GL has the option of drowning Avengers, creating complex chemicals to burn them up or blow them up.
And finally, the explanation in the film for how his power works was that he could create ANYTHING he could think of. Meaning mini sun is a viable option.
Sorry again for the bump but I had to suffer thur this film so I need to spread the pain