Sith vs. Skywalkers

That can be said for HoT, as well.

It could be, but that is irrelevant in the face of Ulic's greater and more fleshed out abilities. Furthermore in the battle they are engaging in, he is working side by side with his fellow Dark Lord and master, whom coincidentally is the strongest in the battle.

HoT's abilities are just as good as Ulic's.

Plagueis is the strongest combatant here, but Kun is quite close as well.

Potentially taking on Kun for hours is a better dueling feat than anything HoT has done IMO.

Apologies, I mixed this up with the guantlet.

That's a stamina feat.

Well it also means he's pretty much evenly matched with Exar Kun.

The Sith don't stomp, but this isn't a difficult decision tbh.

Being matched evenly with Exar >> anything Hero has done with a blade imo.

Not sure why he's being brought up in this thread though.

Originally posted by carthage
Being matched evenly with Exar >> anything Hero has done with a blade imo.

I'm sure something could be brought up for Hero that's comparable to beating Vodo lol.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'm sure something could be brought up for Hero that's comparable to beating Vodo lol.

Yeah the person who was stated to stand no chance when Exar was at his arguable peak lol 👆

Ulic really has no chance against master duelists like Angral, Tarnis, and the ****ing almighty Warren Sedoru ?!!?

Anyways, as I said earlier, Kun's not the strongest Sith. That goes to Plagueis. So I don't think the Sith are going to send their 2nd best guy up against Luke.

Speaking of which, I made the vs. thread, above, to prove my point that Plagueis is indeed>Kun.

*ad autism*

Hero defeated the Imperial Guard, which Nyriss admitted would kill her, on a Dark Side Nexus. 👆

A pre-peak Hero also stalemated/defeated Scourge, who's feared by Dark Council members and has cut down a thousand notable Sith in his time.

And yeah, defeating 3 of the Jedi Order's best while they're being amped by Vitiate is pretty good too.

Not seeing how being better than Vodo Siosk Baas is >> Hero's accomplishments really.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Hero defeated the Imperial Guard, which Nyriss admitted would kill her, on a Dark Side Nexus. 👆

A pre-peak Hero also stalemated/defeated Scourge, who's feared by Dark Council members and has cut down a thousand notable Sith in his time.

And yeah, defeating 3 of the Jedi Order's best while they're being amped by Vitiate is pretty good too.

Not seeing how being better than Vodo Siosk Baas is >> Hero's accomplishments really.

Ulic's killed non force sensitives and a Darksider that held off Two Jedi at once while hindered by a nexus as well 👆. He's also held off a Jedi while stripped from the force, and was the only jedi in the order who could match Kun on neutral ground without dying. Ulic is also better than Vodo so stop trying to make it seen like Vodo is his best kill lol.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Well it also means he's pretty much evenly matched with Exar Kun.

The Sith don't stomp, but this isn't a difficult decision tbh.

I'm aware of that, but the whole "lasting for hours" thing that people throw around is more of a stamina feat than anything else. And Exar's skill feats don't exceed the Hero's, either.

Nope Kun > HoT, for certain.

Stamina is integral to a pure sabers fight so it qualifies as both.

I was referring to sheer skill. Most lightsaber fights don't transcend the one minute mark.

Tol Braga fought Sajar for 3 days or something. Didn't stop the Hero from kicking his ass, despite an amp. Plus they fought through numerous fortresses and bases over the course of the game and plowed through Kaas City (host to legions of Sith), then fought through the Dark Temple defenses and Imperial Guard and beat Vitiate in an apocalyptic battle without even being out of breath.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Tol Braga fought Sajar for 3 days or something. Didn't stop the Hero from kicking his ass, despite an amp. Plus they fought through numerous fortresses and bases over the course of the game and plowed through Kaas City (host to legions of Sith), then fought through the Dark Temple defenses and Imperial Guard and beat Vitiate in an apocalyptic battle without even being out of breath.

Quote on her not being out of breath?

You seem to be implying the feat was accomplished easily or without effort. Unsurprisingly to anyone who's watched you debate a TOR character before, you're wrong.

Well you can see in the cutscene that she isn't out of breath.

I'm definitely not saying it was easy, but the cutscene is the cutscene. Vitiate clearly pushed her hard and even when on his knee's could push her back with the Force.