Nothing was closed indiscriminately- that's literally the opposite of what happened. They were closed very specifically.
If you are not answered when PMing a mod, it is likely because you are merely being a nuisance. You have no right to a reply, and the fact remains that you do not discuss such things on the boards.
i wasn't trying to be annoying in my pm at all. i asked for consideration.
this is a forum where we are supposed to exchange our ideas and ideas will be different. all sides bash eachother but consistently only a certain set of ideals is shut down.
i'm trying to understand it. we have freedom of speech on a forum don't we? yet you reply as if certain ideals are a nuisance and refuse to even engage in dialogue.
i won't say more on this matter. i have no way of conversing with you it seems. via pm or the boards. so i won't address this subject again
I wouldn't know what you did or did not put in PM- I never got one from you.
But my reasoning for closing those threads has been explained, your idea that one side is being shut out for its beliefs is wrong- it's behaviour that is the issue- your invocation of 'freedom of speech' to mean 'I can go to a private forum and constantly harass and make personal insults at other members' is entirely mistaken and the idea that you are even remotely interested in dialogue as opposed to simple hectoring and posturing is not born out by your posting behaviour.
There are plenty of people with your ideals here who do not constantly attack others and who do not constantly turn threads into vapid, hate-filled battlegrounds. Look to your own actions for the solution, don't go blaming others because you have been called out on it.
Originally posted by Ushgarak
I wouldn't know what you did or did not put in PM- I never got one from you.But my reasoning for closing those threads has been explained, your idea that one side is being shut out for its beliefs is wrong- it's behaviour that is the issue- your invocation of 'freedom of speech' to mean 'I can go to a private forum and constantly harass and make personal insults at other members' is entirely mistaken and the idea that you are even remotely interested in dialogue as opposed to simple hectoring and posturing is not born out by your posting behaviour.
There are plenty of people with your ideals here who do not constantly attack others and who do not constantly turn threads into vapid, hate-filled battlegrounds. Look to your own actions for the solution, don't go blaming others because you have been called out on it.
i just looked at my outbox and the message i tried to send to you went to darthborgie. as a matter of fact, everytime i try to look at a persons profile it goes to darthborgie. what the hell is going on?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And who made made you an admin to decide that Burdock? I love how he comes in here and tells us free speech is not allowed. This isn't Germany btw.
Well there's two reasons 1) I have been on these boards a while and have had discussions about this with mods previously and 2) it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what freedom of speech is. Your right to freedom of speech protects you from government making laws to limit your rights to expression, it does not at all have anything to do with privately owned establishments or platforms (like KMC)...
Originally posted by Bardock42
Well there's two reasons 1) I have been on these boards a while and have had discussions about this with mods previously and 2) it's a fundamental misunderstanding of what freedom of speech is. Your right to freedom of speech protects you from government making laws to limit your rights to expression, it does not at all have anything to do with privately owned establishments or platforms (like KMC)...
but kmc is a major contributor to hillary. i've seen raz at hillary rallies too.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
And who made made you an admin to decide that Burdock? I love how he comes in here and tells us free speech is not allowed. This isn't Germany btw.
Right, see that 'this isn't Germany' nonsense right there? That kind of thing is exactly what is getting your threads closed- and don't try to pretend it's in jest; you've been far too serious about that sort of thing.
As it is, he's pretty much correct. You don't have an absolute freedom of speech here; you aren't in public. This is someone else's house. You play by the host's rules. If you do not like the rules, you have an absolute freedom to go elsewhere that allows what we do not.
There's been similar problems with people being unable to access profiles or whole forums. For some people it helps to clear their cache or alternatively switch browsers. Though perhaps that will not be helping in this case.
You can report your problem in this thread, and hopefully it can be fixed next time Raz is around: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f13/t613588.html
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Right, see that 'this isn't Germany' nonsense right there? That kind of thing is exactly what is getting your threads closed- and don't try to pretend it's in jest; you've been far too serious about that sort of thing.As it is, he's pretty much correct. You don't have an absolute freedom of speech here; you aren't in public. This is someone else's house. You play by the host's rules. If you do not like the rules, you have an absolute freedom to go elsewhere that allows what we do not.
I was laughing when I said this isn't Germany though, and repeating it just made me laugh again.
Originally posted by Bardock42
There's been similar problems with people being unable to access profiles or whole forums. For some people it helps to clear their cache or alternatively switch browsers. Though perhaps that will not be helping in this case.You can report your problem in this thread, and hopefully it can be fixed next time Raz is around: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f13/t613588.html
Although it should be mentioned you shouldn't hope for anything. The admin has basically abandoned these forums.