Darth Krayt and Darth Malgus vs Legends Vader and Canon Vader (Force only)

Force powers only. Who wins?

Canon ROTJ Vader or ANH?

Any reason to assume a difference between the two?

Originally posted by ares834
Any reason to assume a difference between the two?

Canon Vader was stated as being in his prime during the Rebels era.

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Canon Vader was stated as being in his prime during the Rebels era.

Do you have a canon source?

I'm not sure when Canon Vader's peak is. Is it ROTJ? ANH? Some other time?

We usually consider ROTJ Vader his peak, because he's had the most life experience then, but perhaps love for his son is interfering with his connection to the Force. Or rather, his connection to the Force is wavering between Light and Dark.

Legends Vader is RotJ
Canon Vader is what ever his most powerful incarnation is thus far. Probably LotS

Originally posted by WildBantha88
Legends Vader is RotJ
Canon Vader is what ever his most powerful incarnation is thus far. Probably LotS

Why wouldn't Disney Vader's peak still be RotJ?

The RotJ novel is in both canon. Isn't that kind of where Vader muses he's stronger than ever?

Even ignoring that?

Can't say I follow the logic of assuming RotJ Vader is weaker than LotS Vader without actual narrative evidence confirming it.

That said, both having RotJ as their peak doesn't make them equally strong given disparity in feats between canon.

Originally posted by ChaosTheory123
Why wouldn't Disney Vader's peak still be RotJ?

The RotJ novel is in both canon. Isn't that kind of where Vader muses he's stronger than ever?

Even ignoring that?

Can't say I follow the logic of assuming RotJ Vader is weaker than LotS Vader without actual narrative evidence confirming it.

That said, both having RotJ as their peak doesn't make them equally strong given disparity in feats between canon.

The novelizations aren’t canon. In fact, we have a new canon novel depicting the events of RotJ (incidentally told from Vader’s perspective) coming out this year.

Anyway, based on the films, I’d assume RotJ Vader is “inferior” to his ESB incarnation. Simply because he is conflicted and hid dedication to the dark side is wavering. With that said, I too have my doubts that he would be weaker during RotJ then he was during LotS.

Not that I'm any too sure being conflicted slows him down against anyone except Luke.

Conflicted Anakin, back in ROTS, had no trouble curbstomping Dooku.

They aren't?

Haven't personally found any with a Legends banner on the cover :hmm

Don't recall the narrative illustrating Vader's thoughts being contradicted by what's onscreen either?

Not doubting you, just asking for more on WHY before I pass judgement.

In my opinion, Vader probably reached his prime during the Rebellion era and just kind of leveled out. The Rebels producers are saying Vader's prime in during then, but it doesn't necessarily mean he got weaker over time, either.

There hasn't been anything definitively canonizing them either. And personally, until I see that, I'd assume they are non-canon. Especially since they do contradict some new canon content and that we have new novelizations coming out soon.

Anyway leaning EU Sith, Malgus has better feats of skill than Disney Vader and would win a duel. ROTJ Vader vs Krayt goes either way

Originally posted by Nargaroth
Canon Vader was stated as being in his prime during the Rebels era.

That was Steve Blum's opinion.

Originally posted by |King Joker|
In my opinion, Vader probably reached his prime during the Rebellion era and just kind of leveled out. The Rebels producers are saying Vader's prime in during then, but it doesn't necessarily mean he got weaker over time, either.

When did the producers say anything about Vader's prime?

Tbh I'm kinda calling BS that Vader peaked early before ANH when there's still plenty of time for him to grow and become stronger. Otherwise he's clearly going to be jobbing heavily in Rebels considering the power he has shown after ANH already.

Originally posted by carthage
Anyway leaning EU Sith, Malgus has better feats of skill than Disney Vader and would win a duel. ROTJ Vader vs Krayt goes either way

Probably the Vader's then. Disney Vader's telekinesis surpasses Malgus's by a noticeable margin

Originally posted by ares834
There hasn't been anything definitively canonizing them either.

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