Whis runs the DBGT gauntlet

SSG Goku was 70% of Beerus but two SSGSS's would not be enough to beat him?

That would mean they get weaker in this new form right? haha

Lol, I know. Doesn't makes much sense... But that's pretty much Tori's MO these days. /shrug

Originally posted by Trocity
Funny that GT is supposedly a way stronger verse, yet the feats performed in it are garbage in comparison to Z.

The guy who can shoot his goofy drill arm is way stronger than Majin Buu? Hilarious.

Same can be said for Z. What actual feats put 17 and 18 above Frieza? Frieza blew up a planet. !7 and 18 didn't do anything even close to that. Based on feats Frieza should stomp both of them at the same time right?

Also, Roshi busted a moon. If collateral damage were the end all be all, that would make him moar powaful than all the Androids put together. Hell, that would make him > Vegetto as well. 🙂

Originally posted by Trocity
Funny that GT is supposedly a way stronger verse, yet the feats performed in it are garbage in comparison to Z.

The guy who can shoot his goofy drill arm is way stronger than Majin Buu? Hilarious.

The actual strongest physical feat was in GT, SSJ4 lifting the city.

Collateral damage, as mentioned, peaked at Frieza saga.

Originally posted by Q99
The actual strongest physical feat was in GT, SSJ4 lifting the city.

Collateral damage, as mentioned, peaked at Frieza saga.

Kid Buu did pop a planet too. But yeah it was more about power scaling post Namek

Originally posted by bbrem123
SSG Goku was 70% of Beerus but two SSGSS's would not be enough to beat him?

That would mean they get weaker in this new form right? haha

Whis said if the two Bluper Saiyans teamed up, they could fight on par with Beerus

I think Bluper Saiyan Goku is 75%-80% of Beerus myself

Originally posted by Crimson Dragoon
Whis said if the two Bluper Saiyans teamed up, they could fight on par with Beerus

I think Bluper Saiyan Goku is 75%-80% of Beerus myself

Or maybe it just shows how flawed all this power scaling really is 😛

SSJGSSJ Goku/Vegeta must be really close to 100% Beerus' level individually, otherwise they'd get stomped w/o much effort. Remember, in DBZ the number of fighters counts for absolutely nothing if they're significantly weaker.

So imo, SSJGSSJ Goku/Vegeta are probably within 5% of Beerus. Not quite powerful enough to beat him solo, but close enough to beat him as a team.

http://kotaku.com/its-official-goku-has-blue-hair-in-dragon-ball-z-1696943056

I....what?

Did you not know SSJGSSJ Goku/Vegeta had blue hair?

that article says SSGSS is weaker then SSG?

I still dont understand why they had goku go into that red haired form. Makes no sense.

Originally posted by bbrem123
that article says SSGSS is weaker then SSG?

But canonically: SSJGSSJ Goku(blue)>70% Beerus>SSJG Goku(red).

The article implied red was stronger than blue, which left me confused. I knew about the blue hair. 😛

Originally posted by Galan007
But canonically: SSJGSSJ Goku(blue)>70% Beerus>SSJG Goku(red).

A few weeks ago, I recall coming across a source which stated that SSJGSSJ Goku>70% Beerus. While that may still be true(and likely IS), I cannot find the where this statement originated--so I cannot call it canon. However, the line about Goku and Vegeta potentially matching Beerus is canon.

Straight from the film:
Whis: "You two really don't get along well at all. If only you teamed up, why, you could even fight on par with Lord Beerus!!"
Beerus: "Put a lid on it, Whis!!"

Remember Even being a fraction omore powerful than someone in Z universe makes you capable of rearranging their face with no problem.

Even if the blooper saiyans were 90% Beerus there is clout to reason that Beerus would still win. Because 10% of Beerus' power is still astronomical.

Edit: Remember that Dodoria=20,000 Vegeta= 22,000. And he washed his willy clean.

What about Whis time manip? He has demonstrated that he can rewind time.
He can use this as an advantage against his opponents.

Whis seems wayy to fast

Originally posted by Galan007
Dunno which version of Rilldo this is. Just commenting that even in his base form, Rilldo>Majin Buu.

Tbh, I'd guess Goku was referring to Pure/Kid Buu when he made that comparison. "Majin"=evil/demonic. While Fat Buu was still around in GT, he was a good guy. The Majin title would no longer fit... I also don't remember them ever referring to Fat Buu as "Majin Buu" in GT either--they just called him "Buu", iirc. /shrug

Given the power-scaling in GT, Oozaru Baby should stomp Whis, tbh.

English dub had Goku compare Rilldo to Majin Buu, yes.

But the original was even more vague... just "Buu":

Another difference --- Japanese version has Goku speaking directly to Rilldo, whereas the English dub had Goku talking with Pan instead:

Pan, not now. Let grandpa handle this. He's powerful. Even more powerful than Majin Buu.